Muskieman Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 A friend of mine has this boat for sale.... He has no clue wht to sell it to me for... neither do I. it's a 1995 Starcraft 1700 Walleye edition... fully loaded with an older 55 Minn Kota cable steer. 3 new batteries and 2 depth finders, 2 Scotty down riggers and a few more things along with all the safety gear. the motor is a 1995 Mariner 75hp 3 cylinder ( 131 hours )that needs a main bearing in the middle piston ( ran out of oil ) I seen the repair estimate and it comes in at 475$... other than that the boat is immaculate.. He has to sell it to me for more than he paid for it ( 20 $ ) He won it in the OFAH lottery along with a new Jeep in 1995.. Now, without ripping each other off, what would be a fair offer on this unit ? Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipfisher Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Randy, That is a nice little boat package. I have a 1993 Starcraft 170C Walleye Edition with a 1995 Yamaha 90hp on it. It came with 1 old fish finder and a 36 lbs. thrust motorguide cable steer bow mount 2 batteries, and some gear. I got itfor a "friend price" and I would think yours should be a bit more then mine. That boat is 2 years newer, has the down riggers and is in better condition. I think a fair "friend price" would be $4000 - $4500. On the market I figure he could get around $6500 - $7500. You should be able to get $2500 for yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskieman Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) Thanks Blair .. But I'm keeping my Tracker .... I'm thinking that it's a little underpowered with the 75 , what would be top speed WOT ? Edited May 25, 2012 by Randy from Sturgeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Ya, 36 mph would be pushing it. Maybe on a calm day, with just the driver, and an empty fuel tank with the wind at your back, going downhill. It would run 30 no problem though, I would think. Its a nice boat, a buddy of mine has one just like it with a 90 Mariner. It fishes real nice too. If you can get that for $5G, your going real good. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musky66 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Randy, That is a nice little boat package. I have a 1993 Starcraft 170C Walleye Edition with a 1995 Yamaha 90hp on it. It came with 1 old fish finder and a 36 lbs. thrust motorguide cable steer bow mount 2 batteries, and some gear. I got itfor a "friend price" and I would think yours should be a bit more then mine. That boat is 2 years newer, has the down riggers and is in better condition. I think a fair "friend price" would be $4000 - $4500. On the market I figure he could get around $6500 - $7500. You should be able to get $2500 for yours. I like it, I have a 98 Superfisherman 17' with a Yamaha 115 and it is a great package- easily towable and handles pretty rough water to boot. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipfisher Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) Thanks Blair .. But I'm keeping my Tracker .... I'm thinking that it's a little underpowered with the 75 .... He says he does 36 mph ... I'm having a hard time believing that ... Ya I get 40-42 mph alone in my boat on a calm day with a 90hp. Max out at 38 mph in a chop with another person in boat. My guess is that boat is rated for up to 115hp so a 90-100 would match it well. I just searched Ontario kijiji and CAN'T BELIEVE the asking price for 17' Aluminum Starcraft packages. I remember researching mine and it was rated really high in the US as a utility boat. Wide beam and deep hull is good for rough water. Mine has live well up front and a split bait well in the back. One thing I miss is the rod locker was removed when the boat was re carpeted. Does that boat have the split transom (tree is blocking the other side)? Mine is designed to fit a short or long shaft kicker. Edited March 24, 2012 by Nipfisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live2fish85 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 I can't see it doing that speed, my friends got a 17'5 Lund Mr. Piker with a 115 and with the two of us and full tank it goes 40-42 mph. Regardless sounds like a great boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskieman Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 BUMP!*** Ok , it's coming down to the wire , I need more input on what I should offer without insulting or ripping each other off ... Boat is in awesome shape but the engine needs a little repair ... HELP ! Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 What it is worth. Motor $1000 Trailer $1000 Boat $5000 A fare price for both of you $4500. If it is forsale let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Offer $3500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskieman Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Thanks ! 3500 ? Really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskieman Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I'd feel guilty at 3500$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 $4500 When he says $5000 take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spincast Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 $4500 When he says $5000 take it X2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipfisher Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) Pretty sure my 1st reply is bang on. Offer $4000-$4500 and as a friend he will take it. Probably worth $6500 - $7500. Edited May 26, 2012 by Nipfisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 In the end you are buying an almost 20 year old vessel, regardless of the shape it is in, or the number of hours on it, with a already required $500 fix. Makes you wonder what else may be involved. Id suggest $4,500 - $4,800 if you have to pay for the fix Don't forget about taxes - an extra cost on top of what you pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPoke Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 FWIW, I sold my '87 18' Starcraft CC for $6,000 a month ago. It had a 75 Mariner and would do 34mph fully loaded/fueled with 2 in the boat. A 75 will do fine but that boat rocks with a 90. Very nice ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeontroller Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I'd be nervous about that engine..."Ran out of oil"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I'd be nervous about that engine..."Ran out of oil"? Ditto , hate to see you pay a good dollar and that bearing is just the tip of the iceberg when they get into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Farmer Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 I'd be nervous about that engine..."Ran out of oil"? My thought also. How does he know middle bearing, must have had it apart plus what other damage with the NO OIL thing. Plus it's a Mariner, they don't make them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 if the motor get fixed and runs great... then minimum $5000 for a boat like that... comparable boats in the states are going for $6000-$10,000...now most of those had slightly bigger engines so id say for him to list at $6500-$7500... but for you id use the motor issue to you favor and id try to get the package for around $5000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landry Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 if the motor get fixed and runs great... then minimum $5000 for a boat like that... comparable boats in the states are going for $6000-$10,000...now most of those had slightly bigger engines so id say for him to list at $6500-$7500... but for you id use the motor issue to you favor and id try to get the package for around $5000 As it is now though - I would say 4000 is fair if he is a friend and it needs work. It will likely cost u 1000 more somehow after u buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 Here is a virtually identical Starcraft, somewhat newer, same powerplant, ready for the water and in Canada. Just to put some perspective on it. http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-powerboats-motorboats-Starcraft-Aluminum-02-Merc-75-W0QQAdIdZ382035036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesG Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 make sure to make differnt receipts for the boat, motor and trailer... it'll save on taxes. If the engine is not apart i'm unsure how the mechanic could tell it was only 1 cylinder that was damaged.. little or no compression? a nock noise? is the paint burnt or peeling on the engine block? if it is, i'd think there is more damage or since you are friends, maybe you could get it to the marina have it taken apart and make sure its just the one bearing and then make an offer. looks like a nice ride. btw i have a 16.5ft lowe with a 1999 90 mariner and it'll run 42mph 2 ppl and full tank of gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuck Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 4-4.5k. That's it. It needs motor work. Who knows what is going to be found once its opened up. Count on at least a grand to fix the engine. Once its apart, the rings and pistons may as well be changed on the other cylinders and it may need To be bored and honed. How old are the batteries?? Electronics?? Etc...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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