Freshtrax Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 Like i said i "get allot of stikes while its laying on the bottom". How can i snag a fish while the lure is not moving just curious?
Spiel Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 Like i said i "get allot of stikes while its laying on the bottom". How can i snag a fish while the lure is not moving just curious? Answer, they come into look at the lure, brush against the line, rod tip twitches.....set the hook, dang....fouled, it does happen, often.
BillM Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 Answer, they come into look at the lure, brush against the line, rod tip twitches.....set the hook, dang....fouled, it does happen, often. We've got a winner!!!
kickingfrog Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 A fish not caught in the mouth or very near the mouth is "snagged". It is possible to snag a fish unintentional. The fish is required to be released, whether is was snagged unintentional or not. "Snagging" or "snaggin'" is a term often used to describe when people are intentionally trying to snag fish. Another note: Some other areas do allow snagging of some fish, or some fish at certain times.
kickingfrog Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 Answer, they come into look at the lure, brush against the line, rod tip twitches.....set the hook, dang....fouled, it does happen, often. I also suspect sometimes that hooks that are in the mouth come lose during the fight. Fish do "miss" the lure sometimes, at least the business end. I'm sure most of us have watched a fish strike at, and miss a crankbait over and over? Sometimes they get the trebles in the cheek.
fishnsled Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 Answer, they come into look at the lure, brush against the line, rod tip twitches.....set the hook, dang....fouled, it does happen, often. Yep but explain this one. I had a tip up with a minnow on it. I was walking over to check it when the tip up goes down fast. Grab the line and start pulling, feels like a good fish. The fish comes up the hole and on the ice and I go to unhook it. The problem is that the fish in not hooked, instead it is lassoed around it's body once. I'm guessing it rolled and the hook popped out but caught the line and made the lasso around the body and the pectoral fins. When pulling the fish up I just noticed the line and figured it had swallowed the hook. What was strange was the fight felt like a normal hook up. As for the side hooks, I leave them on and don't seem to have a problem with them. A snap on the spoon and swivel a couple of feet up. I've had whities with the spoons T-boned in the mouth and the side hooks is what got he fish. Might try tying direct as Aaron and Tony showed in the video that Aaron put up. That's if we get some decent ice to get out on.
BillM Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 I think whities do all kinds of stupid stuff when they're hooked. I've had them hooked in the side of the face after jigging them up 40ft from the bottom, lol.
misfish Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 I lassoed a rainbow one spring.True story.Blew my mind how that could happen.Released it.
BillM Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 Brian, I've had hooks pop only to gank them in the side. That small fish sure turns into a big fish in a hurry
misfish Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) lol Edited January 11, 2012 by Misfish
Freshtrax Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) I catch about 20 every year on the sidehooks on the INSIDE of the mouth..yes i get the occasional foul. What i think happens is the whitefish mouthes the lure as its laying on the bottom of the lake realizes its a hunk of metal down there not a baitfish and tries to spit it out but the oversized hooks catch on the way out. 8/10 times there hooked in the verry front of the mouth when i get a strike on the bottom..simalar idea to using circle hooks on catfish Edited for spelling Edited January 12, 2012 by Freshtrax
misfish Posted January 11, 2012 Report Posted January 11, 2012 I catch about 20 every year on the sidehooks on the INSIDE of the mouth..yesi get the occasional foul. What i think happens is the whitefish mouthes the lure as its laying on the bottom of the lake realizes its a hunk of metal town there not a baitfish tries to spit it out but with the oversized hooks catch on the way out. 8/10 times there hooked in the verry front of the mouth when i get a strike on the bottom..simalar idea to using circle hooks on catfish Good post.Very true.
Eazy Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Posted January 12, 2012 Probably be a good spoon for Lakers, as good as any other williams lure..
Sinker Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 If your jiggin a william whitefish with the side hooks properly, you don't foul hook many fish. Sure, it happens, but not very often. The truth of the matter is, most guys have no clue how to work them, and just end up ripping them, and snagging fish. S.
NAW Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 If your jiggin a william whitefish with the side hooks properly, you don't foul hook many fish. Sure, it happens, but not very often. The truth of the matter is, most guys have no clue how to work them, and just end up ripping them, and snagging fish. S. Exactly what I was thinking.
Nipfisher Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 Thats a killer setup for herring. Wonder when their going to open them up again? Brian, You can have all of our herring from Nipissing for all I care. They are a pain in the butt when targeting walleye and they stink up the hut.
BillM Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 Open herring so I can use them as dead bait in the spring for pike!
misfish Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 Open herring so I can use them as dead bait in the spring for pike! What a waste. I love my smoked herring. Brian, You can have all of our herring from Nipissing for all I care. They are a pain in the butt when targeting walleye and they stink up the hut. I hear their wormy.
NAW Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 I brought two home from the G2G last year, and they both wormy.. Might have just been bad luck. Cuz we fried two up for shore lunch, and they where both fine..
johnnyb Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 I pulled a wormy herring out of Nip this year....but just the one...didn't have others to compare it to. Next time I'll likely chuck'em in the freezer and save them for the pike
BillM Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 What a waste. I love my smoked herring. I can't eat fish, so using them to catch bigger fish is the next best thing!
richyb Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 I find it funny that you guys think that someone is trying to snag fish in 80, 90 fow. People have been JIGGING on simcoe for how many years? They dont call it JIGGLE YOUR SPOON ON BOTTOM. I Just us a flick of my wrist and jig the spoon maybe 6-8 inches at a time in a constant jig always keeping the spoon moving. Sure I get foul hooked fish ( everyone does) but trying to snag in 90 FOW? give me a break. Everyone has a different style of jigging and just because some of you guys diddle your spoon on bottom doesnt mean you can call out everyone else for snagging. Tip ups are likely the biggest % of snagging there is. Lots of times the fish will take a run at it, hit the line and the angler hooks the fish in the belly. Are they trying to snag fish ? no but it happens.
BillM Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 Yeah you're right. No one snags whitefish on Simcoe... Are you one of those guys with the big wooden stick ripping your 'dressed' treble hook 2-3ft of the bottom? If so, I can tell why you might take this thread personally, lol!!!!
johnnyb Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 The way I read it, it didn't sound like they were calling "everyone else" out for snagging. The guys ripping 2 and 3 feet up....when they know there's a school of fish there (easy to do with electronics) are the one's they're talking about. Lots and lots of people fish Simcoe...no question there is a lot of rule breaking going on...same as the way the salmon run brings them out.
richyb Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 Yeah you're right. No one snags whitefish on Simcoe... Are you one of those guys with the big wooden stick ripping your 'dressed' treble hook 2-3ft of the bottom? If so, I can tell why you might take this thread personally, lol!!!! I dont dress my treble with anything and my jig is only 6-8 inches long. Yes I use a jigging stick because thats the way it started on simcoe and it works so why change it? Id rather get a hit on the stick than a rod. Your a steelheader so I guess your the much better fisherman and are always right because steelheaders are a breed of their own.
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