Sharkbait22 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 How do people manage sledding on crusty snow and ice without burning off the slides? Last year on Simcoe, there were a few times we had rain and then freeze-up. I installed scratchers this year and new graphite-loaded slides. These scratchers fit on the skid. It's a 1997 380 Skandic. I've read about people using bolts through the skis. I think Terry might have tried this. Any pointers appreciated. PS someone wake Mother Nature up already. Make some ice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Terry has scratchers.. I have bolts thru my skis for the days they're needed. Both seem to do the trick. Mine's air cooled so I'm only worried about the track/sliders. Terry's is liquid cooled and I think he also added something to mist the cooler...or that may have been Fishhunter/Lloyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I have bolts through the ends of the skis, they work not too bad but scratchers work best <embed width="600" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullscreen="true" allowNetworking="all" wmode="transparent" src="http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf" flashvars="file=http%3A%2F%2Fvid25.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc52%2FMrbeee1954%2FVideos%2FDIGI0007.mp4"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 You need to make that video longer Terry. Now I've got the itch and need to scratch it. Those are the store bought kind are they? Where did you buy them? Royal dist.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I have a pair of Tric Ice Scratchers and they are light years ahead of any of the hard spring steel scratchers out there. They ain't cheap but the first time you accidentally back up with the regular scratchers deployed and trash them you will wish you payed the few extra $$$ for them. I have had the spring steel scratchers and they do work quite well but they become pretzels if you back up with them deployed and need to be replaced while these are made of heavy stainless cable with a replaceable stud as the point that does the scratching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Do they really get enough force going to make a good spray Dave?? I have lots of stuff around here to make something similar.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Do they really get enough force going to make a good spray Dave?? I have lots of stuff around here to make something similar.... Yeah they work very well. I'll try and get some video on the weekend if I remember. I'm old and don't remember things too good any more. They are carving up the deck on my sled trailer pretty good if that gives you any idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Okay.. I have lots of cable "cut offs" with no other use for them.. swagging tools and some cable ends around here that I can fabricate a point or installed a sharpened bolt into.... so I think I can make something similar with no real expense but my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Okay.. I have lots of cable "cut offs" with no other use for them.. swagging tools and some cable ends around here that I can fabricate a point or installed a sharpened bolt into.... so I think I can make something similar with no real expense but my time. There you go. Once you get em figured out ya can send me a couple of sets for Arctic testing. As I said the set I have are drilled and tapped for a carbide track stud. They hold up well and are cheap and easy to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 the spring steel scratchers work very well but you bugger them up if you go in reverse I have these too I mount them on my skis when conditions are real bad and you can go in revers with these ones http://www.firstplaceparts.com/15-6430.html?gclid=CKPq17K6kK0CFYHrKgoddj0p6A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecmilley Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 spring steel ones work great, as do the ski mounted cable ones, there is also a fin style that can screw to the inboard side of the ski that is supposed to work well and you can go in reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 What are the purpose of these scratchers your talking about...? Having a hard time wrapping my head around this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 What are the purpose of these scratchers your talking about...? Having a hard time wrapping my head around this one... Cools the sliders and for the aircooled sleds cools the exchangers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Ah... Better tell my brother then... He burnt his sliders of in a couple days last year... Not much snow on the st.lawrence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Cools the sliders and for the aircooled sleds cools the exchangers as well. That would be the heat exchangers for the liquid cooled sleds... but we knew what you meant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 That would be the heat exchangers for the liquid cooled sleds... but we knew what you meant! I guess you could mount them so they throw snow into the fan of an air cooled sled for Bill so he can be cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I'm a snowmobile rube if you guys haven't figured that out yet, lol!!! My parents neighbour said the spiked track on mine chews up enough ice as is, no need for these things. Edited December 20, 2011 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnsled Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I'm a snowmobile rube if you guys haven't figured that out yet, lol!!! My parents neighbour said the spiked track on mine chews up enough ice as is, no need for these things. Would disagree with the neighbour. Seen a few sleds over the years over heat from the lack of snow, even with a studded track. Might be enough to lube the sliders but I wouldn't bet on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Would disagree with the neighbour. Seen a few sleds over the years over heat from the lack of snow, even with a studded track. Might be enough to lube the sliders but I wouldn't bet on that. Spray some pam on your sliders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnsled Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Spray some pam on your sliders! Not going to keep the sled cool but will might make the cooling fins non-stick so you could do a couple of eggs. For the sliders, I've heard of dish soap as well. I had a buddy that drilled holes in the slides and injected them with a high heat grease. Seemed to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Would disagree with the neighbour. Seen a few sleds over the years over heat from the lack of snow, even with a studded track. Might be enough to lube the sliders but I wouldn't bet on that. Luckily for me I'm rarely if ever out on glare ice with no snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbait22 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Terry has scratchers.. I have bolts thru my skis for the days they're needed. Both seem to do the trick. Mine's air cooled so I'm only worried about the track/sliders. Terry's is liquid cooled and I think he also added something to mist the cooler...or that may have been Fishhunter/Lloyd. Irishfield, Thanks for your reply. How do the bolts fit on the skis? I have steel skis with plastic skins. I have a 3" 3/8 (grade 5) bolt. I'm most concerned about it damaging the ski (egging-out the hole). I'll likely see how these store bought scratchers work first but the bolts would be cheap additonal protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbait22 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Luckily for me I'm rarely if ever out on glare ice with no snow I have studds (109 of them) and my slides melted a bit last year. I tried to hit the snow vs ice patches as much as possible. Even had my feet down at times to dig in the snow, but they still melted a bit. Legs were a tad sore after 14km. BTW- my scratchers were bought for $60. They tuck up out of the way when not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbait22 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I have bolts through the ends of the skis, they work not too bad but scratchers work best Thanks Terry. I read a lot of posts on the net. Most were from guys riding trail: not slick frzen lakes. Hard ice is a different animal than crusted snow. I'd like to see the cable type work on several km of glare ice - then I might buy a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecmilley Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) http://www.royaldistributing.com/main/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&view=book&id=14&Itemid=458&firstPageNumber=316 i also use this one application lasts about 400 km and really seemed to help slider wear on my yamaha, fast traxx slider lube Edited December 20, 2011 by ecmilley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now