darsky Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 (edited) I have been getting movies and such from places like mininova for years and never had any problem. Last week I dl'd W. and a few days later got this email from my service provider...... Subject: Illicit Use of your Internet Access Madam, Sir, We received a complaint affirming that activities associated with your IP address may infringe intellectual property rights of a third party. We would like to remind you that the reproduction of protected material constitutes an infringement to the exclusive right of its holder. This behaviour could expose you to legal action from this third party and to a judgment to pay damages. Generally, you must obtain the permission or rights in order to reproduce any protected material. Please note that Videotron will not take any action against you, but if legal actions were to be brought against you by the plaintiff, we would have no other alternative except than hold you responsible for any damages you may have caused. We thus ask you to cease any activity that may be considered an infringement of a third party’s intellectual property rights. Here is the infringing material according to the complaint: ****** Evidentiary information: Notice ID: 10110399 Recent infringement timestamp: 2008-12-08T23:32:27.000Z Infringed work: W. Infringing file name: W.CAM.XviD-CAMELOT Infringing file size: 732558807 Protocol: BitTorrent Infringing URL: http://www.torrent-god.com/announce.php Infringing IP address: Infringing DNS name: modemcable026.150-58-74.mc.videotron.ca ****** Because of privacy concerns, we cannot give any information regarding the plaintiff, as we do not provide any information to the plaintiff about you except if ordered by a court of law. If you want to know who the plaintiff is, you can search on the internet who is the copyright owner of the material referenced in the complaint. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Yours truly, Internet Security Vidéotron ltée Anyone remember the Metallica thing with Napster? Same type of issue? Edited December 19, 2008 by darsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjcanoe Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Sounds like a form letter to me jjcanoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I would take it seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Of course it's illegal to share files using P2P software such as Bit Torrent. Your ISP is using software to gather info on P2P protocol transfers on their network. All the info gathered will be stored in a database incase there are lawsuits filed as there were in the Napster suits. The info can be used to charge and or sue you for theft of intellectual property. Now you are informed, download at your own risk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing n autograph Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Means nothing....a few buddies of mine are employees at Rogers and it's a scare tactic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 (edited) Internet provider is trying to cut your bandwidth usage ! Edited December 19, 2008 by irishfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I thought in canada they said downloading copyrighted stuff still is legal uploading the same may be illegal in canada that is why maybe you shouldn't use Bit Torrent they upload the same time they download do it the old fashion way..get it off off file share sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerritt Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I have one word for you regarding this.... Proxies... find out what they are and use them. class dismissed. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darsky Posted December 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Internet provider is trying to cut your bandwidth usage ! I thought about that until I realized I get billed a flat $25.00 when I go over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 The thing with torrents, especially private trackers is that in order to be a member you must seed (share) back whatever you download. So a 4 gig DVDR becomes closer to 8 gigs once seeded back. So internet providers have caught on and are trying to throttle torrent traffic to try and turn ppl away from torrents. I have no idea why you would have thought it was legal to share copyrighted material. While nothing pops up to prevent you from downloading anything, it doesn't mean its legal. Like anything in life, when laws are in place but not enforced it doesn't take long for ppl to assume its ok and believe they won't get dealt with. I use private trackers myself and get incredibly high speeds and don't have to worry (as much) about security as with public trackers or low level private sites like Demonoid. ISP's like Rogers have, in recent months, installed bandwidth caps (60 gigs) to try and fight torrents and their high use of bandwidth. Adding a $/gig charge for additional use is how it works now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 or cablehack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 The thing with torrents, especially private trackers is that in order to be a member you must seed (share) back whatever you download. So a 4 gig DVDR becomes closer to 8 gigs once seeded back. So internet providers have caught on and are trying to throttle torrent traffic to try and turn ppl away from torrents. I have no idea why you would have thought it was legal to share copyrighted material. While nothing pops up to prevent you from downloading anything, it doesn't mean its legal. Like anything in life, when laws are in place but not enforced it doesn't take long for ppl to assume its ok and believe they won't get dealt with. I use private trackers myself and get incredibly high speeds and don't have to worry (as much) about security as with public trackers or low level private sites like Demonoid. ISP's like Rogers have, in recent months, installed bandwidth caps (60 gigs) to try and fight torrents and their high use of bandwidth. Adding a $/gig charge for additional use is how it works now. There are other ways of dealing with high bandwidth traffic. I used to run a small ISP and would limit the available bandwidth on a protocol basis and used QOS (Quality of Service) to reserve bandwitdh for time/bandwidth sensitive protocols such as VOIP and Streaming Media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highdrifter Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Wow. Sounds like you're under their radar... Even if it's a scare tactic, I'd take the warning seriously. Ever try using Scrapetorrent and Vuse? Used them for years and never had a problem.. I'd look into this a little bit further though. Looks like they're monitoring your IP!! cheers HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 HD.. wait until they send his better half a list of all the other "sites" he's been watching videos on ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modny Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 just make sure u dont seed back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 ive been downloading everything from music up to hardcore software for at least 7 years and i have received ONE email from rogers. they actually turned off the internet for 1 week. i ended up getting credit on the account because of that... and the reason they suspended my internet? i downloaded a no-cd patch for a game my buddy gave me. odd how i get a warning from a legal game but not the other ones i downloaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 just make sure u dont seed back If you understood the whole idea of the torrent system you would know that doesn't work too well. The idea is to create a system where ppl share files instead of just taking them. Users who share back at a good rate have exceptionally better download speeds than those who try and limit their uploads. If all you want is to download and not have to share back then perhaps you should get into newsgroups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darsky Posted December 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 HD.. wait until they send his better half a list of all the other "sites" he's been watching videos on ! ...she knows em all.Heck-when things are good we watch em together. And HD I have been using Vuze / Azureus for years and I received this. Actually I got TWO emails. One was for Transporter 3 the other was for W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickGG Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 (edited) Firewall your P.C and i Don't know if your hooked up to a router? they do have there own Firewalls that prevents hackers from accessing your P.C, and Routers always assign the same IP address to a host based on its MAC address, the only thing is your gonna have to learn how to assign ports to specific programs to access the internet. Edited December 19, 2008 by PatrickG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I'd add this to the junk folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 have a look at a piece of software called peer guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highdrifter Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 HD.. wait until they send his better half a list of all the other "sites" he's been watching videos on ! Ah c'mon.. no bits here, just good ol streaming video. A new day brings a whole new whack of fine adult entertainment!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoty Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Can't say I'd be giving out my IP address though! Especially with the latest IE security breach! Might wanna edit that out with some xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I wouldn't sweat it. I've received two of these notices myself over the past year. Guantanamo Bay might be considered an upgrade over the Shwa - especially tonight with all the snow that's coming... First off, it's not that it's legal to share, but it is not illegal to make or obtain a copy. Bla bla over whether torrent downloading is sharing or copying. Who cares. Secondly, whatever file that that notice identifies should be removed from the list of files you're sharing. They're not sending you the notice over your acquisition of it, rather they are telling you that you're not allowed to distribute it to others (..for money, which they can't prove but which is definitely illegal in Canada). Finally, cycle the material that you have available on your HD for sharing with others. This means that you still get good download speeds, while avoiding this kind of crap. I limit my uploads per session to 10 files. BTW the IP that they identify in the mail piece resides at the ISP, not on your computer, your router or your firewall. p.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Can't say I'd be giving out my IP address though!Especially with the latest IE security breach! Might wanna edit that out with some xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx it makes no difference at all if you post it online or not as anyone with the intent of attacking your computer can have your IP address in the blink of an eye. hackers are always a step ahead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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