Tinman Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Na, Pete (BITEME)is a great guy!... and he and I were just exchanging a little friendly abuse. He does own a damn ugly straw hat that he has to wear way to often for some reason though... My Bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikehunter Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 I can understand your concerns about people fishing your dock, after all it would be the same as if one was fishing from their boat and some moron flies over and starts casting under it. If that happened to me I'd be pretty p --- off. As for hooks left behind from snags that is something that I have always considered to be bad and that is why if I choose to fish an unoccupied property/dock I am careful and with that in mind I often don't even bother to try it. Can you picture a kid getting a hook in his/her foot, hand or leg? How would you feel? I know I would feel terrible to have been the cause of it. Fishermen have to remember that docks are not only fish magnets but they also draw in the kids. Be careful. All the same if you are not at the cottage, how would you know if someone fished your dock? Just don't get too upset over the issue, keep your head straight and remember the water under or around it is not yours. Ask passing fishermen be careful and not to fish if occupied. That said just watch out for the know it all big headed morons with attitude problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Clemens Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 We fish the docks frequently when nobody is around. If there are people on the docks or swimmers, we give them a wide berth a move on around. Only once was I asked to move on as the owner said his kids frequently swim there and he's concerned about lures being left behind. We didn't become defensive, we just motored on past his property. Many times we get a friendly wave and folks asking if we're having any luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addict Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 be grateful u can afford a cottage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Most of the time when I am fishing a shore line and a dock is their I will fish it if no one is around. If someone is around I will wish them a good morning and give the dock a wide berth so they can enjoy their morning coffee or just the view. Some chat while I am motoring by and even offer me a chance to fish it. If their is someone in the water same rules except no fishing. I have a boat that is in a marina and it has lots of structure and lots of fisherman come in and cast for the fish when I am sitting on the boat. I don't mind the fishing but the sound of your lures hitting boats including mine really pisses me off. I have found dings in the paint from fisherman who have such poor skills at casting that they should be banned from the marina. So if you decide to fish a dock please respect the boats some of them are worth over 500,000.oo and if you do we all might be able to smile and wave at each other and mean it. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaque Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Throw a piece of chain link fence under your dock. By the end of the season you will have a nice collection of bass lures. OMG!! That is hilarious, cruel .........LOL......but hilarious. Sorry i had to comment on this, Ive never even heard of it, but sounds like people actually have done this. Thats too funny. Anyway, its getting redundant, but im on the side that says if theres noone around.......and nobody being bothered, what harm is there throwing a couple under the dock, as long as its not occupied, your not dinkin boats, and not leaving lures behind. I dont fish docks often at all, im usually out in the deeper water when im on "cottage" type inland lakes lookin for walleyes or smallmouth. A little suggestion to avoid leaving your tackle behind on someones dock........just fish them with soft plastics texas or carolina rigged (weedless) But even that isnt a 100% remedy as you can still wrap up your line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Never hooked a dock, purposely bounced a few crankbaits off older beat up docks.....like hitting a log it gets bass attention. I'm sure most would do as I do and be extra careful if snagged where others might swim....move over the snag, 'disturb' the area but retrieve the lure by pulling from every angle. Box springs and chain link fences sound like more of a danger to swimming kids than fishing lures-hope nobody reads this and thinks its a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickGG Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 (edited) OMG!! That is hilarious, cruel .........LOL......but hilarious. Sorry i had to comment on this, Ive never even heard of it, but sounds like people actually have done this. Thats too funny. Anyway, its getting redundant, but im on the side that says if theres noone around.......and nobody being bothered, what harm is there throwing a couple under the dock, as long as its not occupied, your not dinkin boats, and not leaving lures behind. I dont fish docks often at all, im usually out in the deeper water when im on "cottage" type inland lakes lookin for walleyes or smallmouth. A little suggestion to avoid leaving your tackle behind on someones dock........just fish them with soft plastics texas or carolina rigged (weedless) But even that isnt a 100% remedy as you can still wrap up your line. Very well said Blaque, thats is exactly how i fish docks "When nobody is occupying the water or dock" weedless rigs is the way to go but if i am throwing tubes and snag something i would be sure not to leave it behind it is only common sense in doing so. Edited August 7, 2008 by PatrickG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushart Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Actually I'm thinking this thread could change "Cottage Dock" and insert numerous other things and it would still be pertinent. Guys in other boats moving in on you--------interfering with hunters on a watch------giving up your seat on the bus to an old lady etc etc etc. Really guys (or gals) tossing lures at swimming kids---like the man says--"You can't fix stupid" All this boils down to courtesy and respect for others. Maybe we inadvertently drive this ourselves---gotta get the next fish porn on OFC at any cost. I'm sure the last fish in the lake does not reside under the dock where Ma & Pa are chillin. I always avoid people when working a shoreline---be confident in your own ability to figure out what the other million fish in the lake happen to be doing at that same time you wish to chip some poor guys paint Yeah you have the right---does it make it right?--not always. Bushart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdfast Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 (edited) Never hooked a dock, purposely bounced a few crankbaits off older beat up docks.....like hitting a log it gets bass attention. I'm sure most would do as I do and be extra careful if snagged where others might swim....move over the snag, 'disturb' the area but retrieve the lure by pulling from every angle. Box springs and chain link fences sound like more of a danger to swimming kids than fishing lures-hope nobody reads this and thinks its a good idea. Watch out for Bob Izumi and Zambonie, they are Both " THE MAD DOCK FISHERMEN" If any of them bounced their lures off my old dock, out with the sling shot. I have mixed feelings on this one. After fishing some of the lakes in Cottage country, I felt by the locals that I had no Business on their Lake. Should of seen one time when I camped at the local Boat Launch as I arrived after Dark and couldn't find a single spot on the shoreline that wasn't owned. Woke up next morning and seemed to have the Whole Lake Committee paying me a visit. Being the shy guy I was I asked them if they wanted a beer. That was it they vamoosed. My Point is, common sense dictates. But if BIFF wants no one around his dock, Grow a Spine because it will be awhile before it is illegal before all the BIFFS get their own way Edited August 7, 2008 by holdfast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillj Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Too many people seem to feel its their 'right' to do way too many things that suit them but negatively affect others ... maybe its time to change the laws to protect the land owners and waterfront property taxpayers rights... if we want to keep our right to fish I would say it really behooves us to take some consideration for all those other folks who also want to enjoy the water.... not just because its the right thing to do .. but because sooner or later that 'right' might be taken away. Dont forget that there is often a water intake line attached to that jug you see floating there ... Anyone boating/jetsking/fishing within 40 feet of a dock where there swimmers should be charged (and shot on sight)... And I dont own a cottage... but I do spend alot of time fishing off the dock of one ... remember it's one of the few places left you can legally enjoy a wabbly-pop while also enjoying your favourite passtime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Ok, I've read through the entire post and it seems to me that the majority of folks here are already on your program. I think you may be preaching to the choir here as I think you will find that the vast majority of the folks on this board are ETHICAL fisher people. I certainly can understand your concerns and I will add that those who have said they will fish your docks regardless, will do it in a manner that is not destructive to people of property. I would tend to believe that if they are a member of this group, they would without exception. do the right thing! HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookslav Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 A little suggestion to avoid leaving your tackle behind on someones dock........just fish them with soft plastics texas or carolina rigged (weedless) But even that isnt a 100% remedy as you can still wrap up your line. As long as your litteraly willing to swim for its recovery should your line get wrapped up I'd say go for it. But that would make you a better man then most, and I'd applaud you for it. Unfortunatly I'd bet the farm the majority of Guys saying they fish these docks have never thought of the damage a snaged hook can cause to a childs foot....not to be nasty but hopefully they read this and that little cartoon lightbulb went off. I too get a bit defensive when told I can't fish here, or there, and my rights are questioned. But When It sank in that people swim there it changed my oppinion 100% Seriously its not worth it. You wouldn't fish an empty Swimming area at dusk or dawn under the same pretence that people "Swim" there right? (lot of fish there by the way...churned up bottom=baitfish in spades=predetory fish) Why put someone at risk over a fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAzing Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 I'm sure someone told you this in the many replys as I couldn't find the time to read that novel. But you need to get a cottage on a non fishing/boating lake or remove your dock. You may own the land and the dock but the water is there for everyone to use. Yes there are ignorant people who will not be diligent when doing so but the majority of anglers will stay away from swimmers as well as been carefull of your property. It's not because you buy a cottage that you can stop people from fishing, yes the other 80% of the lake will have good fishing spots but your dock is one of the better spots on the lake or else no one would fish it. Best of luck to you and learn to live with others as it's only going to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modny Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 I LOVE SNAGGING HOOKS INTO PEOPLES DOCKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickGG Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 I LOVE SNAGGING HOOKS INTO PEOPLES DOCKS lol, Your a meanie .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greencoachdog Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 I really like the way the splashing and screaming of children swimming draws in the hungry Bass and sends them into a feeding frenzy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushart Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 If you love snagging hooks into peoples docks---you may one day get the angler on the dock pitching 1 oz weighted treble hooks into your boat and snagging whatever they can--same distance right?? See how that saying treat people the way you wish to be treated gets it's origin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickster Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 i have read through this post and it seems most are in agreement about not fishing if there are people in or around the dock. here is a question for the few that feel they can fish there whether there is someone on the dock or not if you are sitting in a honey hole and catching fish after fish and a couple of boats come over and anchor beside you and start casting around and under your boat and start plucking the fish out from under your boat would you not tell them that its a big lake go find your own spot??? kinda the same thing here isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushart Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Oh sure!!! Apply Logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickster Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 LOL sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 cram the only way you will stop people from fishing around your dock is to remove it. I am sick of all the docks on the lakes anyway. There should be a law against docks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 cram the only way you will stop people from fishing around your dock is to remove it. I am sick of all the docks on the lakes anyway. There should be a law against docks. Aw, c'mon. The fish love 'em. JF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyv Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 I can understand your feelings, but being realistic docks do hold fish. A while back the Ontario Government was going to make it mandatory to have a permit to put a dock in a waterway, not sure if that ever went through. My suggestion to protect your kids is a couple of cement blocks around your area, some rope going to the surface from them and a floating line with some floats like you see in pools and public beaches to cordon off the area that the kids swim in. Not sure if it's legal but this type of marker is used just about everywhere I see public beaches on inland lakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GbayGiant Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 GbayGiant....nice of you to call me an jerk. Are you 12 yrs old? No problem. Just turned 13 last week. And I'm sorry to hear about the one little girl story about cutting her foot, I'm sure it happens every once in a while but.... We have a dock that has at least 5000 lost hooks, jigs, spoons ect.. over the years with cousins, kids, neighbours and many swimmers without one incident of a hook in the body ? I think a simple rock has more potential of causing damage, just what I've seen, do we worry about rocks ? not to mention the washed up broken glass, that's why we wear sandals or water shoes in the water, rocks will do worse damage than anything. Usually when a hook gets snagged/lost it's because the point of the hook is embedded into something already. Anyway, I'm neutral because I can relate to both sides. Do you even fish ? Like I said I follow certain courtesy but I've seen to many so called asses up here that simply just don't want anyone on the water and it's not because they have kids swimming off the docks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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