I will never buy another ford product again

[PAZE]

NOBODY builds a work truck like GM or Ford NOBODY, you can jump sing dance do what you like no tundra, honda, tacoma, whatever can match a ford or GM for a work truck. I want to see the end result of a tundra after a season of solid snow plowing, or even better yet I want to see 10 Tundras after 450-500 thousand KM on them, then we can compare, tundras have been out for a few years lets see them at ten years old and see what they look like, its nice to compare a brand new truck.

[Rich]

Agreed PAZE.. I don't see many imports on the road that are 10+ years old, but there's tons of GM's and Ford's out there heck my dad's truck is pushing 20!

[misfish]

I bought plugs, wires, cap and rotor for my 96 F-150 today. They haven't been changed in 7 or 8 years. Keeping my Ford on the road is costing me a fortune. That's got to be about 7 or 8 hundred bucks that I put into it in the past 5 or 6 years.

 

Hey Dan.

Like I mentioned before,mines a 97,they pulled out the original plugs just this year,replaced the wires aswell. Buddy said they were still looking good,but I figured the ol girl deserved a fresh bit of pep.LOL

Oil change and filters and lubing done by myself every 5000 km. I run Quaker 10/30. You know,the stuff Jr,uses.LOL

Edited July 27, 2008 by misfish

[Bernie]

A mechanic owns a Ford???... but... but... they're such terrible vehicles...

 

LOL. My wife drives a 99 Caravan. A customer gave it to me when the tranny went for the third time. (By the way-I didn't rebuild those transmissions)

[aplumma]

NOBODY builds a work truck like GM or Ford NOBODY, you can jump sing dance do what you like no tundra, honda, tacoma, whatever can match a ford or GM for a work truck. I want to see the end result of a tundra after a season of solid snow plowing, or even better yet I want to see 10 Tundras after 450-500 thousand KM on them, then we can compare, tundras have been out for a few years lets see them at ten years old and see what they look like, its nice to compare a brand new truck.

 

The main reason that you see allot of the big 3's as work trucks is they give big buy discounts for repeat/fleet vehicle purchases. It's also easier for the big companies that have in house repair service to stock the parts for the same brand of vehicles. While I am sure that some of their commercials were trying to show their trucks with commercial possibilities the market for work trucks was never the aim of Nissan or Toyota both of them are set up for aggressive driving and towing. If you look around you will also find some of the Datsun pickup trucks which is what they were badged as before they became Nissans almost 30 years ago.

 

I have no problems with buying products from the country you live in it makes sense when it is possible. I don't feel that buying from over seas is a bad thing either. If you had to chose from a bad local serviceman or a good one that was outside of your township which would you call? Do you only buy from the small shops even if the price or quality is less than the big store? I feel that weighing all of the factors is very important in making a decision when it is YOUR money you are spending when you want the most for your money. If I had a fleet of trucks it most likely would be Fords but since it is just my vehicle that I have to maintain I drive a Sprinter Van which is made by Mercedes while more expensive than the fords outright it has had a much lower cost per mile than any of the Big three I have owned in the past. Yes the sprinter is now a GM product but it has non of the technology associated with GM company.

 

Art

[Photoz]

Hm m m m m . . . . nice to hear some votes of confidence in the Caravan . . . . maybe I should just let G M sit on their dang Montanas & Upyours . . . . . er r r r r . . . . . UpLANDERs!

[Clampet]

Ford is very good choice for Trucks

not so good for cars.

The Tauruses were (are?) nice cars. For the money.

Nice being, nice interior, ok ride, roomy.

The reliability, was the problem. A lot of different suspension stuff including the half-shafts were replaced twice during it's 320,000 reign. It was like every month a 2-300 dollar bill was needed to keep the car repaired. By the time, everything was fixed, the brakes were up for replacement, and so it would go, if you missed a month or two, you knew the next repair would be a doosy.

 

Another one required a new/re-built tranny after reaching the 18,000 kilometre mark.

Luckily that was covered by the warrantee,.... but ya gotta ask yerself, ....."how can a car with less than 19k need a new transmission?"

Something wrong with that picture.

Edited July 27, 2008 by Clamp-it

[goteeboy]

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[misfish]

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[holdfast]

If North American companys did like the Japs, concentrate not of Lots, but a few on Quality they would be better off. For example Toyoto Tercel, Corrola, Camray, Tundra, Tacoma

 

Ford- Escort, Taurus, Contour, F150, 250, 350, so on and so on and so on +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[MoriaRiverMan]

I never expected it to be a caddy, but i certainly never expected the engine to go under 60k!

 

I also tried to get a cavalier, but they were built out and none of the dealers had any left when i went to get one.

 

 

Ya motor going under 60k sucks!!

 

I wouldnt be happy either.........

[Roy]

I've owned 3 Fords. I like Fords. If it wasn't for Fords, we wouldn't have good stuff like this!

 

 

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[danc]

Hey Dan.

Like I mentioned before,mines a 97,they pulled out the original plugs just this year,replaced the wires aswell. Buddy said they were still looking good,but I figured the ol girl deserved a fresh bit of pep.LOL

Oil change and filters and lubing done by myself every 5000 km. I run Quaker 10/30. You know,the stuff Jr,uses.LOL

 

Same here Brian. 'Cept I use Penzoil. Those bright yellow jugs just scream "buy me".

 

Jr. could have won me $600.00 in my pool today if he finished first. I didn't have my hopes up too high. After all, he's won only race in the last 5000 or so. Maybe he should switch to Penzoil???

[Bernie]

Sooooo Roy, was your first new Ford a model "T"?

[Mike the Pike]

I've owned 3 Fords. I like Fords. If it wasn't for Fords, we wouldn't have good stuff like this!

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Thanks Roy I did enjoy that very Much

[outllaw]

sadly we bash what we built. if it was not for folks building products here in north america we would not be enjoying, the good life. i know if you are not involved in manufacturing products here in north america. remember the dollars are spent here... without these dollars spent here maybe your lifestyles will change, maybe you will become one of those folks that are without the necessities of life..

[Billy Bob]

Lets see if I got this straight.

 

Imports make up 33% of the N.A market, and of that

22% are Japanese.

GMC product lines out selling all imports combined.

You do the math

 

But world wide Toyota is outselling GM as per this USA article.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-0...toyota-gm_N.htm

[Zib]

Those trannies in the Ford minivans have always been crap. That's what you get when Ford puts in a German motor with a Japanese trans.

[ffej]

Star Trasmission on Ossington.

 

My 95 Sunfire had the transmission die a few years back. Was quoted approx $3000 by Roy Foss Pontiac. my local (and trusted) mechanic does not do transmissions, but the place they farm out to wanted approx $1900. Then a friend of the family told me about this place. $1250 got me a used transmission but with a full 3 year warranty.

[ccmtcanada]

I'm not a mechanic and know little about how a car works. I put the key in, start it up. The pedals make the car go and stop. The wheel by my hands steer it.

 

I've been anal about preventative maintenance with all my vehicles. What this means to me is....regular oil changes, brake pads, muffler/pipes, spark plugs, wires, air filter, timing belt etc...

 

Here's my vehicle history.

 

1983 Mercury Lynx - Blown head gasket after 70,000 kms.

 

1985 Cavalier - rack and pinion steering replaced after 70,000 kms. Transmission replaced at 110,000 kms. Got rid of the thing when at 120,000 km the head gasket blew.

 

1990 Toyota Corolla - Just got rid of it last year. It had almost 400,000 kms on it. The only major things that I ever had done was a few starters, a water pump and a radiator. Air conditioning failed after 12 years.

 

1998 Honda CRV - Water pump failed at 99,000kms. Fixed under warranty no questions asked. New Rad. One Ball joint. Oh yeah....air conditioning needed recharging after 7 years. Still have the vehicle....it now has 280,000 kms on it and it still runs like new.

 

Before I started buying my own vehicles, my dad bought a second hand mid 70's Corolla for my mom to drive. The thing had around 500,000 kms on it and the body rusted out....the engine was fine.

 

I know all makes/models will have lemons....including the imports. Our Corolla was made in Ontario....no idea where my CRV was made. I've always had luck with Toyota and Honda, so next vehicle will likely be the same.

[Billy Bob]

My son's 2002 Pontiac Sunfire with only 70,000 miles on it just got diagnosed with a bad head gasket and a bad fuel pump. The mechanic he took it to also said it needs a water pump, new serpentine belt, plug wires and plugs. This will cost just over $2200.00 for a car that's worth $3000.00. Time to trade it in for a Toyota RAV4 if it makes it to the dealership

[oncogene]

My colleague in lab wanted to buy a used car few years ago and asked me to help test-drive one he interested in. I already advised him not to get a domestic USED car (i wont' even trust a domestic new, let alone used). The one I test-drove for him, the brake was so bad I had to floor it EVERYTIME in even normal braking situation. I told that to the dealer and what did he say? "It's a used Ford (or Dodge), what do you expect"... and he sounded very serious.

 

Anyway my colleague ended up buying a different used domestic later. I think it was $8-9000. That junk died all the time, esp once winter came. He said he brought the car to shop for numerous times, spent a good $2-3000 and still couldnt' even figure out what's wrong. When winter came, during 1 snowstorm, his car died on highway in between towns. Luckily a lady pulled over and took him and his wife back to town. Few weeks later we got another snowstorm. He asked me if I could drive to the other town to pick up his wife with him. I was like "your car still not working?". His car was actually "fixed" and running (sorta). But he's AFRAID to drive that junk in a snowstorm. I OKed to drive him to get his wife in Gananoque back to Kingston, in my car obviously.

 

Soon later he traded in that junk for a previous-year model brand new Corolla. He was so happy, and most importantly he was RELIEVED!

 

 

 

My first car was a Toyota Rav4. At the time, Ford Escape was the competing vehicle in the same "class". I did quite abit of research be4 deciding on the Rav4. The differences in quality and ppl's expectation were definitely huge.

 

From the Rav4 forum, 1 major "flaw" of Rav4 was a NOISE from the dash area, in some of the Rav4.... which turned out to be the plastic battery cover rubbing on the windshield and could be easily fixed by a few inches of sticky foam tap. But some ppl were getting so angry about how the Toyota quality was bad (becoz of that 1 fixable NOISE problem) etc etc.

 

Then in the Ford Escape forum.... well, 1 guy (or lady) test-drove a Escape and the steering wheel broke (LOL). Then some guy posted about his brand new Escape engine DIED for no reason and asked if other ppl had similar problem. Sure enough a few ppl replied having the same issue (Ford, engines, dies? what a surprised!). But what's really funny? all those few ppl, despite having the dead engine on a brand new Escape, would go on and comment how they LOVED their Escape, etc, etc. They just talked about the mysterious engine dying problem as if it's nothing! like It's just part of the fun and joy of buying a Ford?!?

 

Didn't take me long to exclude the Ford Escape from my list at the time thats' for sure.