BillM Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Took the boat out for this past weekend for some Gbay laker action and was having a weird issue with my Terrova (24V, 80lb, 60in).. First off the motor felt pretty weak (I checked all the battery connections and had my onboard charger plugged in all winter). If I used anything about say 6 or 7 on the foot pedal, the motor would surge like crazy (off, on, off, on, off, on) Only when I turned the power down did it constantly run. I took the foot pedal apart at the end of last season for the same issue. I didn't find anything wrong with the foot pedal at all, so I'm kinda at a loss here. I've got a few things to check. 1. Power at receptacle. 2. Double check wiring from batteries to motor 3. Perhaps the foot pedal is the culprit here? (Battery was toast on the iPilot link remote so I couldn't use that, doh!) If you guys have any other thoughts I'd love to hear them. I am planning on replacing the batteries soon anyhow, but wanted to nail down this problem first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerritt Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Bill, Sounds like to potentiometer is shot..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Bill, Sounds like to potentiometer is shot..... So the foot pedal is toasty? That's the way I'm leaning (If everything else checks out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 That sucks Bill. I hope it's not serious. This is supposed to be the best part of the year for us boaters, I find it stressful. I cut the shrink wrap off yesterday and found I have, no bilge pump, 2 livewells not working, VHF not transmitting and I have a hole in my 2 year new fuel line primer bulb so I couldn't start it. Time to get outside get to work and off this laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 That sucks Bill. I hope it's not serious. This is supposed to be the best part of the year for us boaters, I find it stressful. I cut the shrink wrap off yesterday and found I have, no bilge pump, 2 livewells not working, VHF not transmitting and I have a hole in my 2 year new fuel line primer bulb so I couldn't start it. Time to get outside get to work and off this laptop. Your problems sound a lot worse then mine, I hope you get them sorted! I wish I wasn't addicted to the foot pedal so much and could just get rid of it all together, but it just becomes second nature. Maybe I'll pick up that micro iPilot remote, because the big LCD unit is just too big to hold comfortably when you fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I had a similar problem a few years ago. I just needed to clean up the conections in the foot pedal and tighten a few screws. Easy to check that before going further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I had a similar problem a few years ago. I just needed to clean up the conections in the foot pedal and tighten a few screws. Easy to check that before going further. Did that at the end of last season, didn't seem to help. I'd love to get my hands on a known working pedal to rule that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I had the same issue bill last spring and I sprayed the foot pedal with reel majic spray and it worked fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 That's what I keep on reading man, the damn foot pedal. I'll see if I can find a local Barrie OFC'r with a Terrova or Riptide and try their pedal and see if that resolves the issue (I'm guessing it will) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 bill you might find it is only under load so air testing may make it seem to be the pedal but isn't. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 fuse or circuit breaker maybe? I have a 24v riptide and my breaker was shot after 2 years, went with a generic inline 60amp fuse as it was fair bit cheaper than replacing the breaker and just keep extra fuses in the boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 bill you might find it is only under load so air testing may make it seem to be the pedal but isn't. Art Art, good thinking.. Looks like I'll need to test this on the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 i had something like that turned out to be a bit of water in the motor rocky had to replace it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Terry, with the new unit you just picked up last year? I'm pretty sure we've got the exact same motor. Edited April 18, 2016 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 no, the one before it it did weird things much like you described Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan668 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 My terrova before i sold it did some odd things, turns out i had a ton of line caught under the prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Art, good thinking.. Looks like I'll need to test this on the water. Or just make sure that the one you have does it unloaded and the new one acts the same way. Short of an amp meter it is hard to know if it is one of the windings dropping out. You also might check in the head unit where the two wires are joined together they use a crimp butt connector that has corroded so only under load/heat does it mess up. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Billm doesnt have an answer? Epic! J/k, hopefully its an easy and cheap resolve bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Billm doesnt have an answer? Epic! J/k, hopefully its an easy and cheap resolve bill I was hoping I'd get a quick answer instead of diving in and checking everything I'm sure it's something silly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I was hoping I'd get a quick answer instead of diving in and checking everything I'm sure it's something silly! I hope so! It usually ends up that way, especially with a really good product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 as i remember when it happened i did not know there was water,till i put it in the vehicle to take to rockys and a bit of water can out of the head because it was slightly inverted , not much water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) I am going to check those butt connectors like Art mentioned, that's come up a few times on Google. Time to start checking stuff off the list. Appreciate the insight fellas! At least the motor troubles didn't stop this young fella from catching a nice laker (I'm still trying to convince him that holding it isn't 'gross') Edited April 18, 2016 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Nice!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I do have some good news. 2 cranks on the key after I changed the bulb on the 115 and she started and ran like a clock. Same with the 15HP kicker. I won't put the boat in the water without a bilge and a new VHF is in my near furure, important safety feature 15 miles out on Lake Erie. That bilge may be a bit of a chore to trouble shoot. I better get it done this week before Wormdunker and Fish Farmer catches all the perch in Erie. My old wireless MotorGuide foot control would not work properly unless it was in the water under load as Art mentioned Bill. When I was looking at 2 new deep cells (it's 24V) at around 300 Samolians I now call it the hood ornament. I really don't need it for the fishing we do on Erie. It looks nice though up there. When I win the lottery one like yours will be on the boat. I see they have 48V now, that will pull me through the Erie waves. It is probably something simple Bill, it usually is for everyone else but I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Just give the lad a choice hold daddies hand or the fish. Bet he gives the fish a big old hug then. lol Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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