manitoubass2 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I have nothing against the medical use of pot, let's be clear on that. If your sick and need to get well, then people need to do what they need to do. Yeah, but what about those sick losers laying around, being ill, eating doritos? Your stance is hypocritical in the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Look up liver issues from acetaminophen. And people complain about marijuana??? Baffles my mind(while I eat doritos?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Look up liver issues from acetaminophen. And people complain about marijuana??? Baffles my mind(while I eat doritos) You eat your Doritos, I'll stick with Twinkies!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 You eat your Doritos, I'll stick with Twinkies!!!! They still make those? Mmmmmmm Havent had one in 20 years probably. Darn im missing out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Make'm? perfect them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Yeah, but what about those sick losers laying around, being ill, eating doritos? Your stance is hypocritical in the least Because I agree with medical use of prescription and non prescription drugs for folks with real life altering illness, but don't agree with same for recreational use. Yes...yes, I can see how that comes across as hypocritical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Because I agree with medical use of prescription and non prescription drugs for folks with real life altering illness, but don't agree with same for recreational use. Yes...yes, I can see how that comes across as hypocritical. Nah, that clears it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acountdeleted Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I feel like the Doritos are more unhealthy (long term) then the marijuana. Oh the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Have to say this has been one heck of interesting read! Regarding pot I'm not a smoker, but the thought of making it legal for recreational use kind of scares me. I'm not going to say who, but someone I fished with this year (NO it wasn't Chris Brock ) has a medical issue and uses medicinal marijuana to control his symptoms. He had a vaporizer and was using it pretty regularly every day on our trip. In a moment of weakness one evening I took ONE puff off that thing and in 5 minutes was completely wasted - I could barely even walk LOL! In many ways FAR more screwed up than I am after drinking. The thought of people getting behind the wheel of a car in that state scares the hell out of me. I'm all for medicanal use but not legalizing it for recreational use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GbayGiant Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Have to say this has been one heck of interesting read! Regarding pot I'm not a smoker, but the thought of making it legal for recreational use kind of scares me. I'm not going to say who, but someone I fished with this year (NO it wasn't Chris Brock ) has a medical issue and uses medicinal marijuana to control his symptoms. He had a vaporizer and was using it pretty regularly every day on our trip. In a moment of weakness one evening I took ONE puff off that thing and in 5 minutes was completely wasted - I could barely even walk LOL! In many ways FAR more screwed up than I am after drinking. The thought of people getting behind the wheel of a car in that state scares the hell out of me. I'm all for medicanal use but not legalizing it for recreational use. if you think for a second that people who felt like you did, get behind a wheel and drive... How.. It does not happen like that but...... Maybe that person should have warned you that taking other peoples meds are not a good thing, not to mention, against the law! Just saying cheers id post a video for you to help with this but it wont let me lol Edited October 31, 2015 by GbayGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acountdeleted Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Ok, so my full opinion on this. When I was a teen (which wasn't super long ago). Everyone knew a guy. I'm talking like 14-15-16 years old. If you wanted to get marijuana it was easy. Everyone knew someone. I didn't think of it at the time but there was something scary about that. We would hear about pot laced with all sorts of different things. That's how it becomes a 'gateway drug'. Not because people want to try other stuff but because dealers lace their weed with cocaine and heroin to create a market. I don't smoke anymore as I find it just makes me tired and paranoid but I am all for legalizing it. When pot is legalized, you regulate it. It is known to stunt brain growth in people under 20 so you make the legal age to purchase and consume marijuana 21. You hand out harsher sentences for trafficking and really lay down the law on anyone smoking behind the wheel or at work without a doctors note. It would be no different then alcohol or cigarettes except probably much more thoroughly regulated. Saying no one will smoke if weed is illigal is just silly. Saying no one underage will smoke if weed is legal is just silly. But I'll take the lesser of two evils. Edited October 31, 2015 by jeremy84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 if you think for a second that people who felt like you did, get behind a wheel and drive... How.. It does not happen like that but...... Maybe that person should have warned you that taking other peoples meds are not a good thing, not to mention, against the law! Just saying cheers id post a video for you to help with this but it wont let me lol Your comments in this thread are equal parts interesting, enlightening and disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GbayGiant Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw1HavgoK9 that works hope it helps Edited October 31, 2015 by GbayGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch01 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Ok, so my full opinion on this. When I was a teen (which wasn't super long ago). Everyone knew a guy. I'm talking like 14-15-16 years old. If you wanted to get marijuana it was easy. Everyone knew someone. I didn't think of it at the time but there was something scary about that. We would hear about pot laced with all sorts of different things. That's how it becomes a 'gateway drug'. Not because people want to try other stuff but because dealers lace their weed with cocaine and heroin to create a market. I don't smoke anymore as I find it just makes me tired and paranoid but I am all for legalizing it. When pot is legalized, you regulate it. It is known to stunt brain growth in people under 20 so you make the legal age to purchase and consume marijuana 21. You hand out harsher sentences for trafficking and really lay down the law on anyone smoking behind the wheel or at work without a doctors note. It would be no different then alcohol or cigarettes except probably much more thoroughly regulated. Saying no one will smoke if weed is illigal is just silly. Saying no one underage will smoke if weed is legal is just silly. But I'll take the lesser of two evils. A very reasonable and pragmatic viewpoint, except the laced part. I have always heard people talk about "laced weed" and in the decades I've spent around drug culture, I've never seen it. I can never understand why someone would take something that sells for $50-100/gram (coke, depending on the decade we're talking about) and add it to something that sells for $10/ gram. Plus I'm not even sure how you would do it. You can't just sprinkle coke over weed. It would end up at the bottom of the bag anyways. I believe it's an urban myth, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acountdeleted Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 It's probably true in terms of method but in terms of reasoning behind it I totally understand it. In college, my first weekend I was wandering around Rez and a couple of guys asked me if I wanted to come into their house and meet some new people (it's college and this was on campus so I didn't think much of it). I walk in and their kitchen table has 3 lines of cocaine running the length of the table. They told me to enjoy myself and that as a frosh special it was 'all you can eat. For free'. I took a pass. I've never had interest or curiosity in cocaine but I know why they did it. As a 'first timer' I don't imagine I could have taken more then $30-$50 worth of drugs but they were hoping they would have college kids as customers for life. I know it's a little more subtle with marijuana but I could see trying to get kids hooked on the harder stuff. As you said though, not totally sure how they would get it to stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch01 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 It's probably true in terms of method but in terms of reasoning behind it I totally understand it. In college, my first weekend I was wandering around Rez and a couple of guys asked me if I wanted to come into their house and meet some new people (it's college and this was on campus so I didn't think much of it). I walk in and their kitchen table has 3 lines of cocaine running the length of the table. They told me to enjoy myself and that as a frosh special it was 'all you can eat. For free'. I took a pass. I've never had interest or curiosity in cocaine but I know why they did it. As a 'first timer' I don't imagine I could have taken more then $30-$50 worth of drugs but they were hoping they would have college kids as customers for life. I know it's a little more subtle with marijuana but I could see trying to get kids hooked on the harder stuff. As you said though, not totally sure how they would get it to stick. I'm sure in the scenario you present it makes sense. Give someone a line, not a big investment on a new customer. If I were a coke dealer I'd have weed on hand so if someone asks they don't go to a competitor. This all leads into my point though. Prohibition encourages people to deal with criminals who sell other drugs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big guy Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 More like a letter to OFC than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Have to say this has been one heck of interesting read! Regarding pot I'm not a smoker, but the thought of making it legal for recreational use kind of scares me. I'm not going to say who, but someone I fished with this year (NO it wasn't Chris Brock ) has a medical issue and uses medicinal marijuana to control his symptoms. He had a vaporizer and was using it pretty regularly every day on our trip. In a moment of weakness one evening I took ONE puff off that thing and in 5 minutes was completely wasted - I could barely even walk LOL! In many ways FAR more screwed up than I am after drinking. The thought of people getting behind the wheel of a car in that state scares the hell out of me. I'm all for medicanal use but not legalizing it for recreational use. I dont blame ya one bit for trying. We all do some weird crap camping or on trips pretty much. But you went 0 to 100 real quick vaping. Like I stated earlier in this thread I dont smoke to get high, more like a buzz, and with the high potency of marijuana these days all it takes is one tiny lil chunk(like half the size of a dime) to get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 We would hear about pot laced with all sorts of different things. That's how it becomes a 'gateway drug'. Not because people want to try other stuff but because dealers lace their weed with cocaine and heroin to create a market. In reality, that is so very ultra absolutely rare you wouldn't ever actually see that happen. Those are just common myths. I mean it would literally IMPOSSIBLE to lace weed with heroin, based on the composition of each drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GbayGiant Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) In reality, that is so very ultra absolutely rare you wouldn't ever actually see that happen. Those are just common myths. I mean it would literally IMPOSSIBLE to lace weed with heroin, based on the composition of each drug. no ..it wouldn't but it's more like they don't sell things for less than they make far more off of. Edited October 31, 2015 by GbayGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 please expand on how it would be possible to lace a green plant, marijuana, with a black tar substance, like heroin? this should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GbayGiant Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) it's a rather moot point. it's just not done. Edited October 31, 2015 by GbayGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch01 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 please expand on how it would be possible to lace a green plant, marijuana, with a black tar substance, like heroin? this should be interesting. No all heroin is tar heroin. You could probably dissolve the heroin in a solvent (i'm not sure whether heroin is alcohol soluble, but if so you could use ISO), the spray the weed and let the alcohol evap. Any chemists in here? The point is, no one is going to go to that trouble to "try to hook someone on weed ". That's reefer madness level propaganda right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 please expand on how it would be possible to lace a green plant, marijuana, with a black tar substance, like heroin? this should be interesting. Refined heroin can indeed be a white like powder Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch01 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Also, why add coke or heroin to "get people hooked on weed"? Coke and heroin are top of the list already, while weed isn't even on it: https://dreamcenterforrecovery.com/10-hardest-drugs-quit/ Notice what else is on the list? Why is nobody that is anti-pot not also arguing for the prohibition of alcohol and tobacco? Duplicity at its best. Edited October 31, 2015 by Dutch01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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