icefisherman Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Just bought new Buddy heater and remember people talking about ways to refill their one pound tanks instead of keeping buying new ones. Can someone tell me where to find a good deal on the adapter needed and how well this process work? Thanks, Cheers, Ice Fisherman
Terry Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 they are getting hard to find in canada, you may need to order online
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Here you go. http://www.cabelas.com/product/Fishing/Ice-Fishing/Portable-Heaters-Accessories%7C/pc/104793480/c/104735880/sc/104382180/Mr-Heater-Propane-Tank-Refill-Adapter/1151605.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fportable-heaters-accessories%2F_%2FN-1100507%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104382180%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104793480%253Bcat104735880&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104793480%3Bcat104735880%3Bcat104382180 I have the hose and filter set up for mine so I can run off a larger tank. http://www.cabelas.com/product/Fishing/Ice-Fishing/Portable-Heaters-Accessories%7C/pc/104793480/c/104735880/sc/104382180/Mr-Heater-Hose-Assemblies/747266.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fportable-heaters-accessories%2F_%2FN-1100507%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104382180%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104793480%253Bcat104735880&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104793480%3Bcat104735880%3Bcat104382180 http://www.cabelas.com/product/Fishing/Ice-Fishing/Portable-Heaters-Accessories%7C/pc/104793480/c/104735880/sc/104382180/Mr-Heater-BuddyBig-Buddy8482-Fuel-Filter/746840.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fportable-heaters-accessories%2F_%2FN-1100507%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104382180%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104793480%253Bcat104735880&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104793480%3Bcat104735880%3Bcat104382180
icefisherman Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 Thanks guys. Was at Cabelas on Friday and bought new St. Croix ice rod....damn....wish I knew they sell the adapter as well so I don't make a special trip for it. Oh well... Do I really need that filter too? I was reading if you stop gas flow from the 20 lb tank valve first and let gar in hose burn you don't need the filter? Cheers, Ice Fisherman
mike rousseau Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 As far as I know refilling and transporting refilled 1lb tanks is illigal in canada.... But... "I know a guy" that got one of those fittings and has been refilling 1lb tanks for years... No filters... No problems... Used on a portable buddy heater... Just keep in mind the valves on those tanks aren't designed for refilling... My buddy had a tank from ice fishing he forgot in his truck... Got to be 30 degrees outside and the tank leaked propane in his truck.... Since then he treats 1lb propane tanks with more respect...
bare foot wader Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 what is the process for refilling? simply trust the relief valve to work and shut off when propane starts leaking? or hang on a scale? time to google this, I prefer the 5lb tank for ice fishing, but would be great to refill 1lb tanks for the deer blinds
lookinforwalleye Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 This topic was well debated sometime ago...a search should bring it up.
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Your large cylinder needs to be at room temp and the 1#er should be kept in the freezer to cool down prior to filling in order to get the best fill. The large cylinder should be upside down during filling as well. The filter keeps contaminants that may be introduced into the refillable cylinder (from the refilling center) from clogging up the venturi. For the price it provides good peace of mind if you're using bulk cylinders.
icefisherman Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 Does Princess Auto or some other place sell them in the GTA to avoid the drive again to Barrie before my next fishing trip? Also isn't that the same hose I use for connecting my 20 lbs tank to my camping cooking stove or my camping propane lantern? If so I have it and will not need to spend on it. Thanks. Cheers, Ice Fisherman
xxgoaler Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Went to Princess auto and they told me they can't sell them, because they are illegal to sell in Canada, checked on line down the states and they say restricted in Canada
icefisherman Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 hmmmm....just checked Cabelas.ca site and they are not there even though they are on Cabelas.com.... so back to the original question where does one buy one of those things in Canada? Cheers, Ice Fisherman
Fisherpete Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 I've been looking for quite some time with no luck... Let me know if you find any please!
bare foot wader Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 you can find them on amazon.ca, some are pretty pricey though, shop carefully
wdodgetruck Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Lots of videos on u tube . I made my own .
woodenboater Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 I like my fingers and other body parts so prefer to use 5 or 10 lb tanks. A propane fitter I know had some scary stories of people who tried to refill their 1 lbers but things went wrong.
fish_fishburn Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Seen them in crappy tire a couple years ago. The last few times I have looked for them and there were none.
chris.brock Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Wow, you learn something new everyday. I never knew this was possible. On the other hand, propane scares me. I saw a friends ice hut after an explosion.
Terry Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 and back to my first answer buy on line from the usa chances are you can't buy in canada, they are illegal
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Also isn't that the same hose I use for connecting my 20 lbs tank to my camping cooking stove or my camping propane lantern? If so I have it and will not need to spend on it. Thanks. Cheers, Ice Fisherman I'm using the hose I bought @ CT for my coleman stove. As I said, I also purchased the filter from Bass Pro to use with it.
mike rousseau Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 TSC stores carry them in USA... $20 last I checked.... Another safety precaution is to pour soapy water over the valve when filling is complete to check for leaks... Lots of YouTube videos for this process...(
Bernie Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Besides the danger of leaks when transferring the main risk is overfilling a tank. Propane containers must not be filled past 80% of the capacity. The remaining 20% allows for pressure expansion.Liquid inside a container filled to the top leaves no room to expand. So when temperature rises the only way for this pressure can be relieved is the expansion of the container itself. All it takes is a few degrees for this to happen and allow the tank to rupture. When filling propane cylinders you must know the capacity of the tank and how much it weighs. Then fill on a scale.Some cylinders have a bleed valve you can open that allows liquid propane to come out when it reaches the 80% level.
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Besides the danger of leaks when transferring the main risk is overfilling a tank. Propane containers must not be filled past 80% of the capacity. The remaining 20% allows for pressure expansion. Liquid inside a container filled to the top leaves no room to expand. So when temperature rises the only way for this pressure can be relieved is the expansion of the container itself. All it takes is a few degrees for this to happen and allow the tank to rupture. When filling propane cylinders you must know the capacity of the tank and how much it weighs. Then fill on a scale. Some cylinders have a bleed valve you can open that allows liquid propane to come out when it reaches the 80% level. The only way the tank will rupture is if the pressure relief valve is damaged or disabled.
Salmonidstalker Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 ahhhh, what people do to save a buck or two.
irishfield Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Yah.. I use to say that Dave and didn't believe there was any way to possibly overfill a 1 pounder....... then I hung out with Terry and Lloyd a little longer! LMAO Time it... and time it accurately.. the fill time. Start short and work your way up. This year I have a digital scale that I forgot I even had in the shop... so we can tare an empty and then time and weigh until we get it to a science.
Bernie Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 OK, I stand corrected, my intention was for a container for an example of what can happen.But when the relief valve does open it allows the contents to escape which is also quite dangerous.Those of us that understand the physics and able to do things such as this safely is fine. But there are many that do not which is why it is banned in Canada.
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