Matt Janes Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hey Everyone, I think this is my first ever post on this site. I check the general discussion frequently to see all the monsters people are catching. On to the topic. I am looking to buy a new boat. Right now I'm fishing out of an old 14 foot Starcraft Aluminum with a 15HP Merc motor (90's model). It does the job well and I've added all the things I could to make it comfortable but I need (want) something a bit nicer. I am looking at the Legend 15 Angler. List price of 9,999. From doing a little research I hear that these boats are underpowered (only listed with a 20HP motor) and it takes a bit more cash to get a better motor. Also some of the finishes and carpeting I hear are cheaper fabrics. I am looking for anyone information on this boat or any people's input who have experience with Legend boats (first or second hand info would be great!). Obviously price is a major factor and I have looked at some similar Princecraft models that are at least 5000 more. Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 This is what I just posted about in another thread. Ask for a price on the boat with the identical motor that princecraft offers for the smae sized boat. You will see that they are comparible in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Contact Henry here on the board. Real nice guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live2fish85 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Have you thought of buying used? There are some great deals for $10 000. An you can get something a bit bigger with a bigger motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darsky Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Or do what I did and look around for an older model within a few years that suits your needs. I found mine on KIJIJJI and traveled from Montreal to Guelph and back. I felt it was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 What ever boat you get, generally you do want a motor that is near the top end of the boat rating. If you only use the boat in a smaller, sheltered area and don't travel far then you could get a way with less, but you may always kick yourself for not getting more hp to start. Some will also suggest that if/when you go to sell your package that if the motor is not maxed out it will be harder to sell. Look, look and look. Lots of options out there. What might be one person's dream boat is not someone else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manjo39 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hey Everyone, I think this is my first ever post on this site. I check the general discussion frequently to see all the monsters people are catching. On to the topic. I am looking to buy a new boat. Right now I'm fishing out of an old 14 foot Starcraft Aluminum with a 15HP Merc motor (90's model). It does the job well and I've added all the things I could to make it comfortable but I need (want) something a bit nicer. I am looking at the Legend 15 Angler. List price of 9,999. From doing a little research I hear that these boats are underpowered (only listed with a 20HP motor) and it takes a bit more cash to get a better motor. Also some of the finishes and carpeting I hear are cheaper fabrics. I am looking for anyone information on this boat or any people's input who have experience with Legend boats (first or second hand info would be great!). Obviously price is a major factor and I have looked at some similar Princecraft models that are at least 5000 more. Thanks in advance! I have a 2012 Legend XCaliber and am happy with it. The two things I recommend. 1st you already mentioned upgrading the motor. Its a must. Secondly, get the most trolling motor the boat can handle (battery compartment size) and that you can afford. For me the trolling motor is as important as the main motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Legend isn't the only company selling under powered boats. My neighbour bought a 16' SC Lund packaged with a 25hp last year. That is just sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Legend isn't the only company selling under powered boats. My neighbour bought a 16' SC Lund packaged with a 25hp last year. That is just sick. The lake he fish,s,must have slow roaming bass brudder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 It's ok to buy a 16' side console boat and CHOOSE to have a 25HP on it. You're the buyer, you make the choice. But to have it packaged that way as though it was a good, safe option, is nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tb4me Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Cant go wrong with Legend..Just upgrade the motor. My friend has had one for many years..no leaks and very comfy..Good boats for the price IMO..Best part is they are from Canada..I dont think the boats themselves are but they are assembled and create employment right here in Ontario! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneak_e_pete Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I just bought a new boat (Smokercraft). I learned a few things as this was my first big boat purchase. 1. Go as big as you can with the main motor. You want a motor that will move the boat nicely without running wide open. Ya its more money, but worth it. 2. As mentioned, spend the money on a good trolling motor. I laboured over buying a terrova with ipilot, but to me now that I have used it, is as important as anything. 3. Spend some serious time sitting in the boat before you buy. Bring your gear and see how it fits. I love my boat to death, but my rods dont fit in the storage (eyes are too big to slide in.... never thought of that). Good luck.... excited for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyBug Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) I've always been partial to Princecraft boats had two and both were excellent. Lots of options out there don't rush research ask for some on water tests and then choose. But as someone said try to get the max rated on the boat if possible you won't regret it. Good hunting and let us know what you get. Edited July 16, 2012 by UglyBug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherpete Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Hi, I bought a Legend Prosport 16' two years ago, and am very happy with it. The boat & trailer were quite affordable, and I already had a 30hp Honda tiller to put on it. It moves nicely... 27-28mph when I am alone. It does not have a ton of bells and whistles, and is not a big water boat, but for the Kawarthas it does everything I need. Like others have mentioned, if you are going to buy a package, upgrade the motor to at least 75-80% of the max HP rating. A friend of mine bought a Legend similar to the one you are now looking at with a 30hp on it (rated for up to 60) and the boat performed very poorly. I also recommend Henry (Legend dealership near Barrie) - he helped me with my purchase and was great to deal with. Pete Edited July 16, 2012 by Fisherpete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Had my Legend for 21 years now and love it. I also opted to upgrade the motor and have not been disappointed. In fact I know that I will own it until I croak!! Edited July 16, 2012 by DRIFTER_016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish_fishburn Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Why anybody would buy new is beyond me. Buy used let the guy buying new pay the big bucks and you buy it a few years later for huge savings. Then take the savings and pimp it out if you really want too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Why anybody would buy new is beyond me. Buy used let the guy buying new pay the big bucks and you buy it a few years later for huge savings. Then take the savings and pimp it out if you really want too. All valid. The X-factor is what did the previous owner do (or didn't do) to the motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GYPSY400 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hi, I bought a Legend Prosport 16' two years ago, and am very happy with it. The boat & trailer were quite affordable, and I already had a 30hp Honda tiller to put on it. It moves nicely... 27-28mph when I am alone. It does not have a ton of bells and whistles, and is not a big water boat, but for the Kawarthas it does everything I need. Like others have mentioned, if you are going to buy a package, upgrade the motor to at least 75-80% of the max HP rating. A friend of mine bought a Legend similar to the one you are now looking at with a 30hp on it (rated for up to 60) and the boat performed very poorly. I also recommend Henry (Legend dealership near Barrie) - he helped me with my purchase and was great to deal with. Pete I have this same exact boat with a 30 merc 2 stroke on it.. Purchased june 2011 as new.. So far I'm very happy with it.. But I agree with the masses and upgrading the motor is a must ( a 9.9 on a 16 ft is a joke!).. Also watch the price of the options - $250 per seat and $799 for a 45lb motor guide is crazy.. I opted to buy seats at a local sudbury dealer for $70ea. And a 55lb minn Kota bow mount for $599.. A little more work to install but I'm happy with what I have. I did shop around but what I found was either the price was too high for what I wanted ( the legend layout is Exactly how I wanted the lay out - no benches) or they didn't offer what I wanted ( ie: no front casting deck) So all in all, shop around and price out what YOU want, it's your money.. But don't rule out Legend just because they "apparently" aren't as good as a Lund or princecraft. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 All valid. The X-factor is what did the previous owner do (or didn't do) to the motor? exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GYPSY400 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 exactly X3.. My reason to purchase new was because I got sick of wasting time fixing old junk motors ( factor in time Not spent with family)before actually getting out to fish.. and tippy, leaking boats... I'm not looking back in regret because it's going to last me into my 50's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneak_e_pete Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I think buying new is great. Sure I could have saved a few bucks buying used, but with new I know how it was treated. Boats are a money pit, bit if you get what you want up front, it will last you forever. I have no regrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Janes Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thanks so much everyone for the replies! The wealth of information on this forum is incredible. Obviously I haven't decided on a boat yet but when looking at the motor upgrades on the legend website I noticed that the price for a 50HP 4 stroke is $4500 and for the 50HP 2 stroke it's only 1800. Any real downfall to going with the 2 stroke instead of the 4 stroke? Obviously it's a major price difference but I have limited knowledge with this. Thanks Again, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT8 smoker craft Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thanks so much everyone for the replies! The wealth of information on this forum is incredible. Obviously I haven't decided on a boat yet but when looking at the motor upgrades on the legend website I noticed that the price for a 50HP 4 stroke is $4500 and for the 50HP 2 stroke it's only 1800. Any real downfall to going with the 2 stroke instead of the 4 stroke? Obviously it's a major price difference but I have limited knowledge with this. Thanks Again, Matt 2's are a bit louder on idle and smell more they are peppier I love my 90 it pushes my 1825 lund at 40mph I don't think a 4stroke would hit that on my hull .Definately go max HP I still kick myself but I don't think a 125 would do to much more than the 90hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherpete Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 After running a 4 stroke now for a few years, I would never go back to a 2... they are quiet, no oil to mix with the gas, great on fuel efficiency, and virtually no smell/fumes. However I know some of the bigger, newer 2 strokes are much improved, and run much cleaner than 2 strokes of yesterday. As for the new vs. used debate, I bought a used boat a few years ago - with my current Honda - the boat was a lemon, and caused me a lot of headaches, but the motor has been awesome. Always a bit of a gamble buying anything used... try and buy from someone you know takes good care of their gear if possible. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan668 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I paid a tad more for a brand new Lund compared to used ones sold in Ontario, so no brainer to go new. Couldnt convince my parents to let me purchase it from the States, they didnt trust that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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