Billy Bob Posted July 7, 2012 Report Posted July 7, 2012 For those who have never been to Washington, DC to see the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, the wall will be here July 18th to the 22nd.....it's a very moving experience....it host over 58,000 names of young boys that gave the ultimate sacrifice for their country.........it's only about a 35 minute ride from the Peace Bridge where they will be setting it up... See here..... http://www.buffalonews.com/city/communities/southern-erie/article938117.ece
rob v Posted July 7, 2012 Report Posted July 7, 2012 58,000 names - hard to get your head around that ! RIP
misfish Posted July 7, 2012 Report Posted July 7, 2012 Harder to get your head around, why it happen. JMO. RIP
Skipper D Posted July 7, 2012 Report Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) No matter , i like to believe for each war fought over sea's won or not has left us here to live free , up til now atleast . Edited July 7, 2012 by Skipper " D "
misfish Posted July 7, 2012 Report Posted July 7, 2012 And what did it achieve...a lot of grief. Shame really.
Ralph Field Posted July 7, 2012 Report Posted July 7, 2012 A great idea to have a portable wall for all those who have't been able to see the original monument.
spincast Posted July 7, 2012 Report Posted July 7, 2012 you gotta respect the men who served, even of the politicians who caused it were fools. The wall recognizes their sacrifice.
rob v Posted July 8, 2012 Report Posted July 8, 2012 58,000+ kids who never got to come home. and only the good lord knows how many on the other side - including civilians. not sure anything could be worth that price. I guess mankind has a history of this kind of thing. I don't like to be a pessimist but we "all can't get along" can we ?
mercman Posted July 8, 2012 Report Posted July 8, 2012 No matter , i like to believe for each war fought over sea's won or not has left us here to live free , up til now atleast . Amen Skipper
Billy Bob Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Posted July 8, 2012 58,000+ kids who never got to come home. and only the good lord knows how many on the other side - including civilians. not sure anything could be worth that price. I guess mankind has a history of this kind of thing. I don't like to be a pessimist but we "all can't get along" can we ? I guess you never heard of WWII
Billy Bob Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Posted July 8, 2012 Shame really. I take that personally......I guess you never served in the military or don't come from a military family.
rob v Posted July 9, 2012 Report Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) I guess you never heard of WWII I'm no historian, but from what I can gather there was a big difference between WWII and what occurred in Vietnam. I have all the respect in the world for the fine men and women who served in WWI and II (and Korea, Vietnam, Irag, etc etc etc) and I thank the good Lord for everyone of them ! With that said, it makes me sad to think what horror people can inflict on each other. And I think the memorial to the Vietnam vets is a fantastic tribute to their sacrifice. Edited July 9, 2012 by Rob V
outllaw Posted July 9, 2012 Report Posted July 9, 2012 SAD. i have family on that wall. remember the ph.calls and telegrams..sadly leadership aka goverments make monies and dont care .dont get me wrong i have family and close friends that have served,fought and died. the wall is a great memorial but how many war dead have to be honored for the wills of corporations to fatten bank accounts
aplumma Posted July 9, 2012 Report Posted July 9, 2012 This wall is to memorialize the people who did not return from war. It is not to answer the question of was it right or wrong politically. If you have an issue with the politics keep them for another day if you support or are part of the military be thankful you have the chance to see this great tribute and are alive and free to do so. Art
John Posted July 9, 2012 Report Posted July 9, 2012 This wall is to memorialize the people who did not return from war. It is not to answer the question of was it right or wrong politically. If you have an issue with the politics keep them for another day if you support or are part of the military be thankful you have the chance to see this great tribute and are alive and free to do so. Art Thanks Art, this thread needed that. Bob thanks for posting.
outllaw Posted July 9, 2012 Report Posted July 9, 2012 sorry if i ruffled feathers. but polictics do go with whats happened.
Billy Bob Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Posted July 9, 2012 sorry if i ruffled feathers. but polictics do go with whats happened. NO.......I agree 100% with Art......this is a MEMORIAL for those who made the ultimate sacrifice.....let's PLEASE honor at that. The part with over 800 motorcycles sounds very impressive to me....we are thinking about going to this parade.
blaque Posted July 9, 2012 Report Posted July 9, 2012 Exactly as stated above..........this thread was about the memory of thousands of BOYS, who walked into a living hell and never got to come home. I can gaurantee you none of them preferred to spend their adolescent years this way. Honor them in the mere mention of this memorial. Otherwise.....take it elsewhere!!!!!!!!!!
Jds63 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Posted July 9, 2012 This wall is to memorialize the people who did not return from war. It is not to answer the question of was it right or wrong politically. If you have an issue with the politics keep them for another day if you support or are part of the military be thankful you have the chance to see this great tribute and are alive and free to do so. Art Agree 100% , my nephew is a US marine (Staff Seargeant) with three tours of duty in Iraq, he is home now, and my father is World War II vet, he is 89 and I am very proud of them both ... nothing greater than to serve for your Country .. IMO
pikehunter Posted July 10, 2012 Report Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) Shame really. I take that personally......I guess you never served in the military or don't come from a military family. Don't know why you think that Billy or why you said that. I feel it is also a shame and has nothing to do with being military or a military family. It is a shame all those lives were forfitted and for what? A war that is said couldn't be won? And wasn't won. It is a shame so many have left us. The wall itself is not a shame, the lives lost are the shame. I feel for for those who have fought and were lucky to return and I also feel deeply for those families who had friends and relatives that did not make it home. May all of the lost souls rest in peace and the survivors nightmares end. Edited... Edited July 10, 2012 by pikehunter
Headhunter Posted July 10, 2012 Report Posted July 10, 2012 Hey BB, I don't think anyone is intending to belittle the ultimate sacrifice these fine people made. I think what folks are saying is best related by Mr. Fogerty in this song... HH
blaque Posted July 10, 2012 Report Posted July 10, 2012 Don't know why you think that Billy or why you said that. I feel it is also a shame and has nothing to do with being military or a military family. It is a shame all those lives were forfitted and for what? A war that is said couldn't be won? And wasn't won. It is a shame so many have left us. The wall itself is not a shame, the lives lost are the shame. I feel for for those who have fought and were lucky to return and I also feel deeply for those families who had friends and relatives that did not make it home. May all of the lost souls rest in peace and the survivors nightmares end. Edited... I believe thats the perfect translation for some of the earlier comments
Dusky Posted July 10, 2012 Report Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) sorry if i ruffled feathers. but polictics do go with whats happened. Do you think they had a say in what happen and went to the war knowingly that they are fooled by the civilian political leadership for share politics? Blame politicians all you want, but man in uniform who fought and paid the biggest scarifies deserve utter most respect. Edited July 10, 2012 by Dusky
Fisherman Posted July 10, 2012 Report Posted July 10, 2012 Do you think they had a say in what happen and went to the war knowingly that they are fooled by the civilian political leadership for share politics? Blame politicians all you want, but man in uniform who fought and paid the biggest scarifies deserve utter most respect. Something about US draft you don't understand, they didn't have much of a choice. As for this thread, it does have a political nexus and as thus should have been shut down from the start. Sorry, but it's not a memorial from this country either.
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