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Hi all,

 

I've been finding game fish for sale at certain Chinese supermarkets in the past few years. Species I saw are Northern Pike, Walleye, Crappie, Rockbass and Bluegills. I just saw a tank full of Rockbass last week and some were smaller than palm sized. Being a catch and release guy this naturally disgusted me. I called the OMNR every time I come across this but since these finds pops up time and time again I wonder if anyone else actually call and report. The kicker is, there's a sign on the tank that says "Wild Caught".

 

 

 

CBJ

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Not something we see up here(North Bay), but I would imagine it's actually quite prevalent down South. I would certainly be calling the MNR anytime I see something like that, every tip helps.

 

Although, I'm guessing it would be hard to determine if they were legally caught/purchased

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You can get pike fillets at Sobey's from Manitoba.

Fresh, live fish are brought in from outside the province all the time. Some are farm raised, some are netted. Some are poached.

With tank loads of live fish it is not uncommon to have a tank of stripers with a few crappie and lm bass as bicatch from south of the border.

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As far as I understand it is only Native Americans that can catch and sell native fish within Canadian borders? Without a comercial licence . And Rockbass /pike/and fresh water bass are not on the list of comercial fish.

 

????

 

If I am wrong let me know.

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Yea, I've called every time I saw something like that. I think native Americans can sell them but I doubt they do business with these supermarkets. I don't go to these supermarkets often so I can't really tell if the OMNR has actually visited them or not. I'm 99% sure they are wild caught game fish. The pike tend to be there in numbers no greater than 5 and the pan fish are in large numbers. The supermarkets are in Toronto and Markham region.

 

I can confirm that selling them is illegal as that's what the OMNR officer told me.

 

CBJ

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A quick google gives me this..

 

It is legal to raise and sell

most game and baitfish indigenous

to Ontario, in addition to

tilapia and crayfish (Table 1). The

culture of a specific fish species is

subject to licence approval by the

local OMNR District office.

Licences to culture and sell fish,

stock fish in Ontario waters and

collect fish and/or their gametes are issued by OMNR.

An Aquaculture Licence permits the holder to culture, purchase,

sell and transport the species specified in the licence.

The granting of an Aquaculture Licence depends upon recommendations

by OMNR specialists who assess the potential ecological

impacts of the proposed fish farm.The licence is valid

for five years. An Aquaculture Licence is renewable or transferable,

providing the licence conditions are complied with.

The cage culture of fish on public lands (i.e. lakes) requires the

monitoring and maintenance of water quality as specified on

the particular licence. The implementation of this specific condition

is currently under review by all the involved parties.

Fee-for-fishing operations, formerly licenced as fishing preserves,

now require an Aquaculture Licence.

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Why do we do this twice a month? :dunno:

 

 

I suspect there are alot of people that only come on the site twice a month. I know that I don't research every topic in the archives before I post or comment on them. Give the guys some slack.

 

Cheers

 

Craig

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SPECIES ELIGIBLE FOR CULTURE IN ONTARIO

 

 

Lake sturgeon

Acipenser fulvescens

 

Atlantic salmon

Salmo salar

 

Brown trout

Salmo trutta

 

Brook trout

Salvelinus fontinalis

 

Lake trout

Salvelinus namaycush

 

Arctic char

Salvelinus alpinus

 

Splake

The hybrid of Salvelinus fontinalis and Salvelinus namaycush

 

Chinook salmon

Oncorhynchus tshawytscha

 

Coho salmon

Oncorhynchus kisutch

 

Pink salmon

Oncorhynchus gorbuscha

 

Rainbow trout

Oncorhynchus mykiss

 

Lake whitefish

Coregonus clupeaformis

 

Lake herring (cisco)

Coregonus artedi

 

Muskellunge

Esox masquinongy

 

Northern Pike

Esox lucius

 

Creek chub

Semotilus atromaculatus

 

White sucker

Catostomus commersoni

 

Bluntnose minnow

Pimephales notatus

 

Fathead minnow

Pimephales promelas

 

Northern redbelly dace

Phoxinus eos

 

Finescale dace

Phoxinus neogaeus

 

Common shiner

Luxilus cornutus

 

Golden shiner

Notemigonus crysoleucas

 

Emerald shiner

Notropis atherinoides

 

Common carp

Cyprinus carpio

 

Goldfish

Carassius auratus

 

Brown bullhead

Ameiurus nebulosus

 

Channel catfish

Ictalurus punctatus

 

American eel

Anguilla rostrata

 

Largemouth bass

Micropterus salmoides

 

Smallmouth bass

Micropterus dolomieu

 

Bluegill

Lepomis macrochirus

 

Pumpkinseed

Lepomis gibbosus

 

Black crappie

Pomoxis nigromaculatus

 

Walleye

Sander vitreus

 

Sauger

Sander canadensis

 

Yellow perch

Perca flavescens

 

Tilapia of the genera

Oreochromis, Sarotherodon, Tilapia

 

Calico Crayfish

Orconectes immunis

 

Virile Crayfish

O. virilis

 

Northern clearwater crayfish

O. propinquus

 

Robust Crayfish

Cambarus robustus

 

Appalachian Brook Crayfish

C. bartonii

 

Marsh Pondsnail or Melantho Snail

Stagnicola elodes

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Well sorry I can't please you tonight Cram.. run right down there and stand there until the MNR show up, after calling a CO. Want one of their personal cell numbers?.. I have at least 5 in my phone.

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I really doubt someone is farming northern pike and selling them to supermarkets.

 

I was at Seafood Depot in Woodbridge a week ago and they had lots of pike in there for sale.

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Why are so many people always looking to attack the Chinese dunno.gif

 

This past weekend at my lake there were people fishing for crappie and there were numerous buckets and pails full of fish many fish over the limit and all these people were wasp`s. Gonefishing.gif

 

 

It's media hype and stereotyping.Ever watch "Wild Justce" They always show them harassing chinese fishmarkets and such.Its a bloody shame and i dont even bother watching the show anymore.

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Get your fresh caught crappies here.......only $8.99/lb.

 

I'm not even kidding. I've seen it too. I'm not sure of the legalities of it all, but I know they can do it somehow. How they prove they were actually purchased from a licensed dealer is beyond me though.......What kind of fish farm raises 5" crappie and rockbass for sale???

 

 

S.

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