Dutch Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hopefully this serves as a deterant for others that continue to take advantage of our natural resources. They really need to step up the enforcement and penalties for illegal fishing and hunting as well. Jail time will help. Story for my local paper: A Toronto-area man got 150 days in jail after being convicted of multiple animal related offences including hunting specially protected wildlife. Pak Sun Chung pleaded guilty to hunting protected wildlife, possessing bullfrogs and snapping turtles and violating a court order that prohibited him from capturing and possessing reptiles, amphibians or fish for 15 years. An investigation was launched after conservation officers received information of turtle poaching in the Wallaceburg area of southern Ontario. Officers contacted Chung July 10, 2007. Chung had three spotted turtles, a snapping turtle and 13 bullfrogs in his possession, court heard. The season was closed for snapping turtles and bullfrogs and Chung did not possess the required fishing licence, court heard. It is also an offence under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act to capture or possess a species designated as specially protected. Under the new Endangered Species Act which came into force last year, the spotted turtle is listed as endangered and is afforded additional protection. Madam Justice Susan Hoffman sentenced Chung in Chatham on Thursday. To report a natural resource violation call 1-877-847-7667 toll-free any time or contact your local ministry office during regular business hours. You can also call Crime Stoppers anonymously at 1-800-222-8477. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzo Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 hope he got that snapping turtle out of my lake, we've got a few to spare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishnwire Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I'm a little confused. Why is he so determined to catch turtles and frogs in violation on the law? Is he consuming them personally, selling them for commercial consumption, or the pet market? He's a criminal in any case, I'm just curious of his motivation. Particularly considering he was previously busted. Why do it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Not to make light of it, but, It says he didn't posses the required license to catch them out of season. I never knew there was an out of season license. Like, do you get off easier if you buy a license even though the season is closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneFly Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Well this is intersting,...I have accidently caught several HUGE snapping turtles,..while carp fishing and bass fishing off of a dock,...the experience showed me how Freakin big those dinosaurs can get,...I have had them hooked over 100 lbs,..one of which we actually pulled up on the dock as he snapped onto a bass that was sitting in a net just below the water and wouldnt let go,...had a tail the size of my arm with studs all over it and paws like my hand,..and Oh boy, when they get out of the water, they turn viscious. it was caught accidently,...and he ran/waddled and dove back in but that thing was massive!!! Other times I have had say 50-75lbs+ while carp fishing several times. you cant really get close to unhook them. What the hell do they do with the turtles or the Bullfrogs for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdfast Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) I'm a little confused. Why is he so determined to catch turtles and frogs in violation on the law? Is he consuming them personally, selling them for commercial consumption, or the pet market? He's a criminal in any case, I'm just curious of his motivation. Particularly considering he was previously busted. Why do it again? Ha Ha Ha, you ll never get the answer, bet ya he plays the courts and officials as dumb or gullible. Edited September 16, 2009 by holdfast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandru Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 wow what could you do if you caught a snapping turtle? are there actually guidelines to follow? i've come really close a good few times. thank god i havent ever had to deal with catching one. would you just have to cut ur line and let move off? or would you actually have to attempt to remove the hook????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 he was most likely catching them to eat....I don't think that incidental catching would qualify as "targeting," regardless of open season or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadadude Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Well this is intersting,...I have accidently caught several HUGE snapping turtles,..while carp fishing and bass fishing off of a dock,...the experience showed me how Freakin big those dinosaurs can get,...I have had them hooked over 100 lbs,..one of which we actually pulled up on the dock as he snapped onto a bass that was sitting in a net just below the water and wouldnt let go,...had a tail the size of my arm with studs all over it and paws like my hand,..and Oh boy, when they get out of the water, they turn viscious. it was caught accidently,...and he ran/waddled and dove back in but that thing was massive!!! Other times I have had say 50-75lbs+ while carp fishing several times. you cant really get close to unhook them. What the hell do they do with the turtles or the Bullfrogs for that matter? 100lb snappers, what are they eating deer and moose a big snapper is about 20 lbs. 100lb snappers stay outa that water! Jerassic park turtles hahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyb Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 havent' checked the regs lately, but our fishing license used to allow us to catch snapping turtles. Turtle soup, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Repeat offender, so obviously he loves his turtle meat and frogs legs, no matter what! They should put him on bread and water while he's in the klink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassjnkie Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 He probably eats them. There is a group of 6 that catch them out of season in a spot in Keswick, they leave with a couple buckets full. Yes I confronted them, they don't understand and I did call the reporting center and no one showed up. Plus, 6 people fill a couple buckets quick and then they leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Should you be unfortunate enough to catch a snapper while fishing as I have, I'll let you know what worked for me. I had hooked a snapper in the front paddle, while carp fishing. Once I had it on shore, it was shall we say, a little less then pleased... all hissy and stuff. I grabbed a faily large and thick stick and waved it in the turtle's face. He immedately grabbed the stick and would not let go, until I let the stick go. So, should you catch one, try waving a stick at it's mouth, don't let go of it and then, get yer hook out of it! HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Should you be unfortunate enough to catch a snapper while fishing as I have, I'll let you know what worked for me. I had hooked a snapper in the front paddle, while carp fishing. Once I had it on shore, it was shall we say, a little less then pleased... all hissy and stuff.I grabbed a faily large and thick stick and waved it in the turtle's face. He immedately grabbed the stick and would not let go, until I let the stick go. So, should you catch one, try waving a stick at it's mouth, don't let go of it and then, get yer hook out of it! HH It really does work. I've seen one carried by an oar he had clamped onto. And my dad used to tell a story about him and his brother carrying one hanging from a stick for more than a mile. Actually for those familiar with the area it was from Trout Creek below what is now Wildwood Dam into St.Marys by the train station. Snappers are apparently as stubborn as they are snarky. JF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jediangler Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I hooked this one in Alder lake in New Dundee in the spring and yes I cut my line rather than try to get my jig back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radnine Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 He probably eats them. There is a group of 6 that catch them out of season in a spot in Keswick, they leave with a couple buckets full. Yes I confronted them, they don't understand and I did call the reporting center and no one showed up. Plus, 6 people fill a couple buckets quick and then they leave. When are these people going to start eating steroid laced processed chemical laden rubbish, like the rest of us? Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 When are these people going to start eating steroid laced processed chemical laden rubbish, like the rest of us?Jim They get all their chemicals from eating 20-year-old turtles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTHM Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Snappers are apparently as stubborn as they are snarky. JF Shouldn't they be called Dutch turtles then???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoorguy61 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) An elderly gengtleman I used to know (now deceased) claimed that when he was a diver many years ago, he observed snapping turtles nipping at a body he was retreiving. It sounded very spooky and although I could not confirm the story, this fellow sure did hate snapping turtles....he was just sickened by them. outdoorguy61 Edited September 17, 2009 by outdoorguy61 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Shouldn't they be called Dutch turtles then???? ...wooden shoes, wooden shells, wouldn't listen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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