grimsbylander 77 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 I guess I'm not up to speed on the recent changes but I'll say it's about time Ontario allows beer sales in a grocery store. It's a cold weekend so I got myself some Guinness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillM 70 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 Now if only we could improve the selection on this side of the border, lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OhioFisherman 32 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 I often wondered about some of the laws by location? A beer store and alcohol store? One place we vacationed and fished at in New York was in a dry township, no alcohol sales. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Ironmaker 50 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) When they started selling Beer and Wine in the grocery stores I noticed they were only stocking higher end wines and they weren't cheap, I don't know about today. A better selection of both would be good I agree Bill. If I remember you could only get a 6 pack which is much more $ than buying a 24. There are only 6 packs in the picture. No way I'm buying 6 packs there. Why I wonder only 6ers? Oh I know, they make more money that's why. Edited April 14, 2018 by Old Ironmaker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Ironmaker 50 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, OhioFisherman said: I often wondered about some of the laws by location? A beer store and alcohol store? One place we vacationed and fished at in New York was in a dry township, no alcohol sales. If someone knows why I would be interested to find out. As far as I know both are under separate corporations. I still remember going into The LCBO and having to fill out a slip of paper then discreetly handing it to the clerk and then they went in the back to get your order. Half the time it was wrong because they couldn't read the code someone hand wrote. At times line ups out the door and around the corner, and line ups for parking, especially a Saturday or before a Holiday. I was told back then it was because of theft. Efficient eh? Edited April 14, 2018 by Old Ironmaker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimsbylander 77 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 I was actually impressed by the selection they had considering it was a first go around. I only snapped one pic but there were two separate kiosks with 4 sides each carrying a good selection of domestics, imports and craft beer. But overall in the province, I get what you're saying arout selection. Funny, I remember going to the old brown brick "Liquor Control Board of Ontario" (very official) with my parents and seeing them fill out a little white order slip just to buy one of about 12 different selections. Always the same....nasty 5 Star Whiskey! Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirCranksalot 29 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 Our local Loblaws had a much better selection than LCBO across the street when it was first allowed to sell. Now the variety is reduced quite a bit,presumably based on sales, but they are still about equal to LCBO. OI--They still put the booze in paper bags though so nobody knows what you got in there!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misfish 173 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) I was walking through walmart this week and noticed they too are selling it The Zhers by my work is selling as well. Nice to do a one stop for beer and chicken wings. Edited April 14, 2018 by misfish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misfish 173 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 2 hours ago, grimsbylander said: I remember going to the old brown brick "Liquor Control Board of Ontario" (very official) with my parents and seeing them fill out a little white order slip just to buy one of about 12 different selections. Always the same....nasty 5 Star Whiskey! Lol That or silk tassel. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirCranksalot 29 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 Get any Cold Duck or Baby Duck "wine"??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OhioFisherman 32 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Old Ironmaker said: If someone knows why I would be interested to find out. As far as I know both are under separate corporations. I still remember going into The LCBO and having to fill out a slip of paper then discreetly handing it to the clerk and then they went in the back to get your order. Half the time it was wrong because they couldn't read the code someone hand wrote. At times line ups out the door and around the corner, and line ups for parking, especially a Saturday or before a Holiday. I was told back then it was because of theft. Efficient eh? Ohio used to have " state stores ", they were the only place to buy a bottle of high test alcohol, you could buy beer, wine, and blended " water whiskey " like 40 proof in the grocery stores. LOL, unless you knew your local bartender well and were willing to pay double or more for a bottle to go? The state store employees got paid pretty well, were union, healthcare, pensions, and there must have been a couple of dozen " state stores " in the Cleveland area alone. The stores had liquor in locked display cases and the same deal with the slip of paper and getting your purchase. If you were under age? Don't bother trying a " state store " to get a bottle, it wasn't going to happen! One of our governors, as a cost cutting measure did away with the state stores, if you believe that line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misfish 173 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, SirCranksalot said: Get any Cold Duck or Baby Duck "wine"??? LOL Now thats a classic wine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimsbylander 77 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, SirCranksalot said: Get any Cold Duck or Baby Duck "wine"??? I can vouch that 30 years ago, the girls loved it...and therefore so did I!! lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misfish 173 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, grimsbylander said: I can vouch that 30 years ago, the girls loved it...and therefore so did I!! lol YUP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Ironmaker 50 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 When I was in my 20's my Uncle had a Gin Mill off the I-90 S near Darian Lake NY I tended bar and truckers and locals would come in and pick up a 5th of Keslser's or 4 Feathers and a 6 pack to wash that gut rot swill down. In some US counties it was legal to sell booze out of a bar. I remember filling out those slips at the LCBO, I was either underage or I really am getting old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rizzo 20 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 30 years ago I spent the summer in Quebec and you could already buy beer/wine at the "depanneur" (variety store basically) so I am shocked it took so long in Ontario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 7 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 I think Ontario was late to the party because of the long time Brewers Retail arrangement with the major breweries that restricted what could be done. Its only relatively recently that they allowed beer to be sold in the LCBO too. I think the Brewers Retain arrangement provided them exclusivity in some way. I am not sure if they still do it, but in Alberta you could buy beer at a bar. Its called “off-licence” sales. That just seemed weird to me for some reason, but I guess since they have the process for checking for underage or impaired buyers in the bar, why not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirCranksalot 29 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 Ont has always lagged behind the other provs in this area. Brewers retail prob had a big influence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dave524 46 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 1146-B was the cheap wine I drank at University, " Come alive for a dollar five " always packed a wineskin for a football or hockey game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigugli 13 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 22 hours ago, grimsbylander said: I can vouch that 30 years ago, the girls loved it...and therefore so did I!! lol That and Blue Nun. Well known in the day as "panty remover" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigugli 13 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Canuck said: I think Ontario was late to the party because of the long time Brewers Retail arrangement with the major breweries that restricted what could be done. Its only relatively recently that they allowed beer to be sold in the LCBO too. I think the Brewers Retain arrangement provided them exclusivity in some way. I am not sure if they still do it, but in Alberta you could buy beer at a bar. Its called “off-licence” sales. That just seemed weird to me for some reason, but I guess since they have the process for checking for underage or impaired buyers in the bar, why not. LCBO and Brewers were monopolies created by the province. LCBO was controlled by the province, Brewers was owned and operated by the big 3: Molsons, Labatts, Carling-O'Keefe. Up until the late 70's the only brands in an LCBO were foreign, and Brewers only sold their own big 3 labels. The first cracks in the wall were the introduction of Brador as a strong beer, and Miller as the first non stubby non Canuck beer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dave524 46 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, bigugli said: That and Blue Nun. Well known in the day as "panty remover" I predate the popular " Duck "wines by a year or two, the favourite panty remover in my day was Mateus sparkling rosy , more class than a duck wine if you ask me. Edited April 15, 2018 by dave524 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misfish 173 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 58 minutes ago, dave524 said: I predate the popular " Duck "wines by a year or two, the favourite panty remover in my day was Mateus sparkling rosy , more class than a duck wine if you ask me. I enjoyed this wine when I would head to fish the pool for the weekend in Niagara. That with some pizza and wings. Cheap buzz, but was still up and early, for the mornings fish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigugli 13 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, dave524 said: I predate the popular " Duck "wines by a year or two, the favourite panty remover in my day was Mateus sparkling rosy , more class than a duck wine if you ask me. Mateus and Mogan David were my Mother's fave's back in the early 70's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Ironmaker 50 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 Gin was panty remover, here and in the US. Didn't work overseas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites