Acountdeleted Posted February 5, 2019 Report Posted February 5, 2019 For 5 years I was hoping he would make a little less then $11.6. I expected that more for an 8 year deal. But that is why they are the experts and not me. If Marner signs for 5 years does that mean he will sign for around $10? Also time to cue up MuskyMatt saying it was a bad deal and that Matthews is going to post a pic of him in his Arizona Cyotes pajamas in 5 years when he leaves.
DRIFTER_016 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Report Posted February 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, jerpears1 said: For 5 years I was hoping he would make a little less then $11.6. I expected that more for an 8 year deal. But that is why they are the experts and not me. If Marner signs for 5 years does that mean he will sign for around $10? Also time to cue up MuskyMatt saying it was a bad deal and that Matthews is going to post a pic of him in his Arizona Cyotes pajamas in 5 years when he leaves. 8 year deal would have been 12.5-13. Marner will likely be 9.5-10 AAV on a 5-6 year.
AKRISONER Posted February 5, 2019 Report Posted February 5, 2019 They need to move someone if marner is at 9.5+ personally I still think kapanen is gone unfortunately hence they should trade for a rental piece and make a serious run at it this year
scuro2 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 Well do they really need to move anyone especially now? If you replace your RFAs with internal talent half the problem is solved. Gardner, Hainsey, Innis, Lindholm, would all have to go unless they do Leaf cap friendly deals. The talent you would be interested in keeping is Sparks, Johnnson, and Kapanen...yet you have $5.3 on the books for Horton and another $1.2 for Kessel. Trade that debt away if need be. Horton comes off the books after next year anyways as does Marleau. If you listen to Dubas, that is his solution...internal talent to fill holes or to be used as bait in trades. He states basically they do a lot of future number crunching. Look at Pittsburg...similar boat, top 4 talent basically take up 1/2 the cap. I have no reason to doubt that Dubas can get er done. GMs now have to be great jugglers.
misfish Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 14 hours ago, DRIFTER_016 said: Marner will likely be 9.5-10 AAV on a 5-6 year. That seems to be the number. Listening to talk radio, one asked,if they offered 7 per, would he take it. They laughed. AM might need to donate some of that outrageous salary to the Marner fund. Dubby is not moving anyone til off season. He does though,want to lock Marner now. All for the love of the game,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOL
Acountdeleted Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 3 hours ago, scuro2 said: Well do they really need to move anyone especially now? If you replace your RFAs with internal talent half the problem is solved. Gardner, Hainsey, Innis, Lindholm, would all have to go unless they do Leaf cap friendly deals. The talent you would be interested in keeping is Sparks, Johnnson, and Kapanen...yet you have $5.3 on the books for Horton and another $1.2 for Kessel. Trade that debt away if need be. Horton comes off the books after next year anyways as does Marleau. If you listen to Dubas, that is his solution...internal talent to fill holes or to be used as bait in trades. He states basically they do a lot of future number crunching. Look at Pittsburg...similar boat, top 4 talent basically take up 1/2 the cap. I have no reason to doubt that Dubas can get er done. GMs now have to be great jugglers. The mentioned on 590 in the city, Toronto is going to keep the best players. So Nylander probably isn’t moving. Kapanen and Johnson are Probnaly between 2 and 3 million for 2-3 years each. They guys you mentioned are Probnaly gone. All this means is unless Dubas gets a really good deal he is Probnaly done trading this season. No big moves at the trade deadline.
misfish Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, jerpears1 said: going to keep the best players. So Nylander probably isn’t moving. You did say best right ?
chris.brock Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 Ennis and Lindholm are cheap, why would they have to go? Those are the kind of players we need, cheap, but can still play an effective role. There is creative ways to do things. Remember the Orpik trade- https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/orpiks-team-friendly-deal-with-capitals-one-month-after-trade-buyout-raises-eyebrows
Acountdeleted Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, misfish said: You did say best right ? Lmao. I hate to say it because I really don’t like what he did this year, but he is starting to get his legs back under him. The problem was (and he is an idiot for doing this) he was half a season behind everyone else, finally got warmed off then was off for 9 days with the all star break and bye week. If he gets back to form by the playoffs i’d Be happy but also surprised. I think we won’t get our monies worth until 2019-2020
DRIFTER_016 Posted February 6, 2019 Author Report Posted February 6, 2019 EEK!!! If Marner gets over 10 mil AAV someone is going to have to go. https://www.tsn.ca/report-agent-says-so-far-leafs-have-been-trying-to-lowball-marner-1.1253030?fbclid=IwAR1a3ulDc_tURTO_4Sn9MV8qOR3J5NoNAKTld58TY-MP3gF8B1rhUdTKZL0
jimmer Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 These contract demands from young athletes are getting tiring. Football, basketball or hockey, they're all the same. I love watching sports, but this is tipping the scales for me.
Acountdeleted Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 It won’t last long. Next CBA the NHLPA is going to lose garenteed money. So signing bonuses will come with less money. Be interesting to see if no garenteed money means it also gets taken off the cap when a player is injured.
DRIFTER_016 Posted February 6, 2019 Author Report Posted February 6, 2019 Reminds me of the Leafs fans not too long ago. We all know how the Oilers fans feel.
kickingfrog Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 Hey just an fyi: Ottawa still has a team in the nhl. Seriously, I just checked the schedule, Ottawa has a team playing the Leafs' tonight. 2
leaf4 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 I think guys like Connor brown and Hyman are probably gone, looking at some of the projected roster trees that's what helps tip things into their favour, having guys like zaitsev at 4.5, Connor brown at 2.1, Hyman at 3 mill... It's too much for what they bring to the team, I love Hyman he's always in the right spot and plays a great hard game, but he's got no finish... He only pots the easy goals anyone could score lol
jimmer Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, leaf4 said: I think guys like Connor brown and Hyman are probably gone, looking at some of the projected roster trees that's what helps tip things into their favour, having guys like zaitsev at 4.5, Connor brown at 2.1, Hyman at 3 mill... It's too much for what they bring to the team, I love Hyman he's always in the right spot and plays a great hard game, but he's got no finish... He only pots the easy goals anyone could score lol Kind of tough to fill out a roster when you have 4 or 5 guys taking half the cap and the rest wanting to make a few mil.
BillM Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 It will be interesting to see if Gardiner stays. I like the guy, I like what he brings to the game but I wouldn't be surprised if he's had enough of this place and goes elsewhere. Same with Zaitsev. Won't be surprised if Nylander is gone either.
jimmer Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 Not sure how they sign Gardiner, with Marner still pending. Gardiner will want over 5 mil.
misfish Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 What is Kadri making ? Is he a pawn to deal ? Only wondering as no where do you hear his name brought up.
jimmer Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 Kadri is at 4.5 mil. He is a good third line center and I think Babcock likes him.
BillM Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 44 minutes ago, jimmer said: Not sure how they sign Gardiner, with Marner still pending. Gardiner will want over 5 mil. Yeah, I have a feeling you're correct. He'll most likely be gone.
Acountdeleted Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 44 minutes ago, jimmer said: Not sure how they sign Gardiner, with Marner still pending. Gardiner will want over 5 mil. No way Gardner can stay. When they signed Musin it pretty much sealed the deal. Right now Toronto has $14 million available for next year. Even if Marner takes 9 they aren’t going to spend the other 5 just on Gardner. 1
DRIFTER_016 Posted February 6, 2019 Author Report Posted February 6, 2019 3 hours ago, kickingfrog said: Hey just an fyi: Ottawa still has a team in the nhl. Seriously, I just checked the schedule, Ottawa has a team playing the Leafs' tonight. Who?
DRIFTER_016 Posted February 6, 2019 Author Report Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, jimmer said: Kind of tough to fill out a roster when you have 4 or 5 guys taking half the cap and the rest wanting to make a few mil. That's how they do it in Pittsburgh and they just won 2 cups in the last 3 seasons.
leaf4 Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 3 hours ago, DRIFTER_016 said: That's how they do it in Pittsburgh and they just won 2 cups in the last 3 seasons. Yes, but they are only paying Crosby 8.7 mill a year... He could make double that. Plus Kessel is only in the books to them for 6.8 because we're eating 1.2mill of that 8mill a year, that was the only bad part about that trade.
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