netminder Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 So what scares everyone about Trudeau? Other than the obvious propaganda and spin you see in the Conservative attack ads. - has no experience? A career politician? - Harper is the epitome of career politician - no fiscal responsibility? "the budget will balance itself" - how about “the commitment needs to be a commitment to grow the economy and the budget will balance itself” I don't know what else, but those two things are always what comes to mind first whenever this debate comes up, other than the obvious (will raise taxes, etc, stereotypical liberal fears).
moxie Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Prison, incompetent.....blah blah blah. You liberal fanatics had a look at the provincial debt and in turn the theft of this provinces future by an idiot and his idiot successor? Of course not. Takers only have their intetests in mind, all the time.
moxie Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Tried to keep it civil but given theres nothing civil about most civil servants i figured id throw a dart of my own of course.
netminder Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Prison, incompetent.....blah blah blah. You liberal fanatics had a look at the provincial debt and in turn the theft of this provinces future by an idiot and his idiot successor? Of course not. Takers only have their intetests in mind, all the time. I would be careful mixing federal and provincial politics. I can't stand the Ontario Liberals and more than the next person. But answer this, would you really be willing to elect someone as premier of Ontario who doesn't believe in evolution? Talk about slim pickings.
lookinforwalleye Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 That's a good start....Tax and spend Liberals....
dave524 Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 So what scares everyone about Trudeau? Other than the obvious propaganda and spin you see in the Conservative attack ads. - has no experience? A career politician? - Harper is the epitome of career politician - no fiscal responsibility? "the budget will balance itself" - how about “the commitment needs to be a commitment to grow the economy and the budget will balance itself” I don't know what else, but those two things are always what comes to mind first whenever this debate comes up, other than the obvious (will raise taxes, etc, stereotypical liberal fears). The scariest thing about Trudeau is that if his name had been Smith he be directing some High School production of "Arsenic and Old Lace " somewhere. Fiscal responsibility ?? what would a trust fund baby know about that " The budget will balance itself " I love Liberal math, it's like fiction but with numbers and stuff.
kickingfrog Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 I don't accept that particular rendition of the facts.
Steve Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) these early polls are predicting change. (as of today, August 17th) Harper in third. Edited August 18, 2015 by Steve
Canuck2fan Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 That's a good start....Tax and spend Liberals.... VS spend like drunken sailors and don't tax conservatives..... LOL The actual numbers from the past 40 years DO NOT support the contention that the federal conservatives are good with managing money. Mulroney 263 Billion in deficit spending 0 balanced budgets. Harper 8 in row of deficit spending 156 billion in deficit spending so far and climbing. And unless Nigel can Wright a cheque for 600 million according to independent PBO the budget is NOT balanced this year as the conservatives would like us to believe.
KLINKER Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Does Mr. Harper still have time to resign and get a full pension before the cuts kick in? He must be thinking about it.
Old Ironmaker Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 tb4me, I am very interested to get some documentation concerning Shell being allowed to run crude into the Atlantic for 21 days before a well is capped. Do you have any link(s) I could follow? That doesn't sound good. Are we talking Econ Valdes or BP gulf spill gallons per minute here for 21 days? Perhaps someone is getting a few things misinterpreted. Do we have any scientists on board to educate us here, I don't even know what science this comes under geology? I need to know more, so please tell us where you have learned this to be true. I concede this won't be the only political thread here before October that's a given. This oil pumping into the Atlantic for 21 days is news to me and many I'm sure. PM me with these links if you will so I don't hi jack this thread.
Pigeontroller Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 This is important! And we should be discussing it! And being civil! Harper is scary, do some research before you blindly vote for the Conservatives! I'd vote for Beiber for PM before Harper!
tb4me Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 tb4me, I am very interested to get some documentation concerning Shell being allowed to run crude into the Atlantic for 21 days before a well is capped. Do you have any link(s) I could follow? That doesn't sound good. Are we talking Econ Valdes or BP gulf spill gallons per minute here for 21 days? Perhaps someone is getting a few things misinterpreted. Do we have any scientists on board to educate us here, I don't even know what science this comes under geology? I need to know more, so please tell us where you have learned this to be true. I concede this won't be the only political thread here before October that's a given. This oil pumping into the Atlantic for 21 days is news to me and many I'm sure. PM me with these links if you will so I don't hi jack this thread. CBC link here, but its allover the internet http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/shell-gets-ok-to-take-21-days-to-cap-blowouts-off-nova-scotia-coast-1.3179496
Pigeontroller Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) CBC link here, but its allover the internet http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/shell-gets-ok-to-take-21-days-to-cap-blowouts-off-nova-scotia-coast-1.3179496 It just amazes me that there's ANY support for Harper! Edited August 18, 2015 by Pigeontroller
Paudash Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Vote Liberal and watch our economy fall apart in a real hurry, I am sorry but Trudeau has nothing to offer except a name. Vote NDP and ask how Muclair can pledge allegiance to France as he is a French citizen not by birth but because he applied for it. He says he will relinquish his French citizenship but only if he is elected as PM. I think it is great that people can have dual citizenship's but not that hold Federal office and even more leaders of Parliament
Pigeontroller Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Vote Liberal and watch our economy fall apart in a real hurry, I am sorry but Trudeau has nothing to offer except a name. Vote NDP and ask how Muclair can pledge allegiance to France as he is a French citizen not by birth but because he applied for it. He says he will relinquish his French citizenship but only if he is elected as PM. I think it is great that people can have dual citizenship's but not that hold Federal office and even more leaders of Parliament Fear mongering...The Conservatives favorite tactic!
manitoubass2 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 As aboriginal family, i would never vote harper. Hes backhanding natives into giving up all treaty rights, slowly and privately.
emjay88 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Yet you choose not to suggest who our saviour should be, just who we should not vote for. The "scandal" with Duffy is that you have an entitled corrupt conservative senator spending too much tax payer money, our money, on himself. The PM wanted the story to go away so he used backdoor channels to pay the money back when he found out Duffy was wasting tax dollars and yes probably lied about how he went about it. $90,000 was the whopping amount of waste!!! Now he is in trouble, not for wasting it himself, but for trying to pay it back lol. Paying back taxpayer money!!!! People are suggesting jail for the PM?!? I guess McGuinty and Wynne should face life in jail. Yes I realise this is provincial politics, but why is Justin holding hands with wynne today? http://www.thestar.com/news/federal-election/2015/08/17/kathleen-wynne-and-justin-trudeau-rally-liberal-faithful-in-regent-park.html The liberals in Ontario have pissed away BILLIONS not $90,000 on cancelled gas plants to win 2 seats. Ornge, Ehealth and countless other examples. Yet the federal liberals want to align themselves with their provincial counterparts. Now that is scary!!! Yet under Harper's watch we rank #1 in the world again in reputation and have ranked #1 as the most desirable place to live. http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/canada-has-the-worlds-best-reputation-global-survey-shows-1.3155500 People like to point out he has the worst economic record since WW2 according to some left wing websites, yet the IMF points out the global recession of 2008-2009 was the worst since WW2. No kidding the economic record won't be favourable yet Canada came out of the recession leading all G7 nations. Liberals or the NDP the answer? I can't even fathom what our deficit would be right now if the NDP had been in power for the last 8 years.
lookinforwalleye Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 now there you go another Conservative fear mongerererer.... I agree with you 100%......Mulcair as PM....good lord is there a scarier thought....can you see this character having the stones to deal with the very real terrorist threats of ISIS....
Canuck2fan Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Yet you choose not to suggest who our saviour should be, just who we should not vote for. The "scandal" with Duffy is that you have an entitled corrupt conservative senator spending too much tax payer money, our money, on himself. The PM wanted the story to go away so he used backdoor channels to pay the money back when he found out Duffy was wasting tax dollars and yes probably lied about how he went about it. $90,000 was the whopping amount of waste!!! Now he is in trouble, not for wasting it himself, but for trying to pay it back lol. Paying back taxpayer money!!!! People are suggesting jail for the PM?!? I guess McGuinty and Wynne should face life in jail. Yes I realise this is provincial politics, but why is Justin holding hands with wynne today? http://www.thestar.com/news/federal-election/2015/08/17/kathleen-wynne-and-justin-trudeau-rally-liberal-faithful-in-regent-park.html The liberals in Ontario have pissed away BILLIONS not $90,000 on cancelled gas plants to win 2 seats. Ornge, Ehealth and countless other examples. Yet the federal liberals want to align themselves with their provincial counterparts. Now that is scary!!! Yet under Harper's watch we rank #1 in the world again in reputation and have ranked #1 as the most desirable place to live. http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/canada-has-the-worlds-best-reputation-global-survey-shows-1.3155500 People like to point out he has the worst economic record since WW2 according to some left wing websites, yet the IMF points out the global recession of 2008-2009 was the worst since WW2. No kidding the economic record won't be favourable yet Canada came out of the recession leading all G7 nations. Liberals or the NDP the answer? I can't even fathom what our deficit would be right now if the NDP had been in power for the last 8 years. Live in fear my friend live in fear and vote for me. That has been Harper's mantra from day one and for good reason it works LOL.
Canuck2fan Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 now there you go another Conservative fear mongerererer.... I agree with you 100%......Mulcair as PM....good lord is there a scarier thought....can you see this character having the stones to deal with the very real terrorist threats of ISIS.... Harper and stones? Wow I can't even go there... It would be way to cheap of a shot.
Steve Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 I'm not going to get into the harper bashing, although he deserves it more than any PM in my lifetime (I'm only 35). I'm just glad by all accounts he'll be gone this term. Not sure who is going to replace him yet (likely Trudeau, but that's ok....as long as harper is out. Time for change.
SirCranksalot Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 I'm not going to get into the harper bashing, although he deserves it more than any PM in my lifetime (I'm only 35). I'm just glad by all accounts he'll be gone this term. Not sure who is going to replace him yet (likely Trudeau, but that's ok....as long as harper is out. Time for change. Long overdue!! Fear monger, divide and conquer---that's his M.O.
lookinforwalleye Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Part of me hopes you Harper haters get what you want...Pierre Elliott lite or Mulcair and his band of kooky candidates....you socialist union guys may get what you want! And you know what perhaps I should embrace the NDP I am getting closer to retirement age so maybe I should get ready to belly up to the trough like all the other piggy's!!!
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