esoxansteel Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Andy Donato's comic in the SUN, said it best today regarding the shot Bear It said Thanks for calling the MNR, if you are having a problem with a nuisance animal are hours of operation are 9am till 5pm, after hours please call the police and they will come out and shoot it. So sad but true. Same thing happened in Peterborough a few back where the MNR office is, and the cops still had to come out and shoot the harmless Bear, which was 5 minutes away from the office, Also happened with a Turkey at the junction of the Hwy 115 and Hwy 28, again the OPP's shot the turkey as it was on the side of the road getting gravel, and they thought the Turkey would be a distraction for drivers. Im sure it happens all over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 they shot the turkey? You're kidding, right? From what I heard about the Newmarket bear, it sounded like they were trying to scare it out of the tree, and when it did come down they shot it anyway? What was the thought process? (rhetorical question - there was none) I think they need to make the entrance exam for the police force a little tougher. I had a friend growing up have their dog shot by a police officer because it was "on the loose" even though it was still on private property. It's stories like this that make you wonder how they would react in a real emergency... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Always lousy when they kill the bears when it's not necessary but I spose sometimes they don't have much choice unfortunately. The said they killed the Newmarket bear because kids were on the street going to school but from what I understand the police were there at 6:00 AM when they called MNR. Seems to me they could have been driving around the neighborhood getting peoples attention with the siren and then broadcasting to stay indoors. And I believe that bear was in the area for a couple days so it would seem the MNR would be aware of what was going on and could have been ready to head there faster rather than taking a couple hours. I dunno know, maybe I'm wrong. And Steve, that story about them killing the turkey is nothing short of insane. Edited June 3, 2015 by lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing n autograph Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) MNR was called 48 hours before the bear was shot and they wouldn't come out. Yrp called animal control, u of Guelph, Toronto zoo and several other services with no help. The bear was up a tree not far from a school and everyone and their kids ran out of the house to watch the bear. MNR was called again, and they took 2 hrs to respond Scared and confused bears can turn violent pretty quickly. Had the bear turned on a child in the area then police would have had to answer why the bear wasn't put down. Damned if you do, damned if you don't Always easy to armchair quarterback net minder especially after the MNR a was called several times and they never showed up. Actually they showed up ten minutes after the shooting. The blame should be placed on the MNR. They never show up when they are needed. I have called for them numerous times in 8 yrs and they've showdd up once Edited June 3, 2015 by FishnNAutographs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) So what happen to the perfectly good meat? That was a WRONGFUL kill IMO. And Im a hunter. Edited June 3, 2015 by Brian B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Time to shut the MNR down. Unfortunately many people that don't have any experience with wild animals will make the wrong decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 The blame should be placed on the MNR. They never show up when they are needed. I have called for them numerous times in 8 yrs and they've showdd up once Can't blame the MNR as they were handcuffed when the Lieberals took away their funding. Now they are down to one CO posted in Moosonee and need to have bottle drives to afford gas for the '71 Pinto he drives!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Shearer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 This event was poorly handled from the start. BUT, Don't blame the cops! We need to hound our MPPs as to why the MNRF is unable to respond to these events, in due course. It's all about the money. Especially since these events will be happening with more frequency, because of the cut off of the spring bear hunt. I was a hunter years ago. I would not shoot bears because my family would not eat them, and I didn't want a rug in front of the fireplace. I have no qualms about those who do, or did. The Province, and the economy lost a lot of dollars when the hunt was cancelled. The same groups that objected to the hunt, now object to the result of the handling of the bear problem. Their objection didn't help in the first place, and is no help now. Are they out there helping to raise funds for the MNRF to provide services to areas with over population of bears? In a word....NO! Don't blame the police. They were put in a position that is truly outside of their normal mandate, by the politicians who were pretty scarce when the event unfolded. Typically. Thats my 2 cents worth, for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 The Liberal govt is turning the whole province into a joke. All they want to do is pass laws restricting our freedom and expanding their unaccountability. How does the Hydro one CEO still have his job How come our insurance coverage is limited by law just because Kathleen promised to get insurance rates down At least the cops will take care of a bear before a kid gets mauled Now, when are the OPP going to arrest Kathleen for election fraud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Unfortunately many people that don't have any experience with wild animals will make the wrong decision. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I just don't get it,no one has a phone?,no conversation, I don't believe for a minute that there was some kind of a timeline from the MNR.Short of staff I get it.No one as of this morning has come out and said why they could not wait longer and mnr for there lack of no show.Just sayin . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) The MNR doesn't want to be involved anymore...its a bear, let the police deal with it. We have them all over town, nobody bothers anymore. They did trap one a couple weeks ago because it was right downtown and would never find its way out. If there is no trap, shoot it..just make sure you use a 30-06 so you stop it right now instead of a 38 special and chase it around Edited June 3, 2015 by Dara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing n autograph Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) MNR won't come out unless a bear is stationary. They didn't come out after the first call because it was moving Edited June 3, 2015 by FishnNAutographs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing n autograph Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I just don't get it,no one has a phone?,no conversation, I don't believe for a minute that there was some kind of a timeline from the MNR.Short of staff I get it.No one as of this morning has come out and said why they could not wait longer and mnr for there lack of no show.Just sayin . According to the dispatchers they were calling non stop and getting "we are on the way" but no ETA was given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 According to the dispatchers they were calling non stop and getting "we are on the way" but no ETA was given Maybe,funny how they showed up 10 mins later.I just think this was a easy way out.Loads of cops,Bear was going no where.Agree if it headed towards kids or someone ,ok.Sad anyway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing n autograph Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Lol if you're interested there's a protest rally against the YRP at Fairly Lake tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Lol if you're interested there's a protest rally against the YRP at Fairly Lake tonight... Because of the bear shooting Dave ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaf4 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Could it not have been tranquilized? Cops don't have access to those or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Lol if you're interested there's a protest rally against the YRP at Fairly Lake tonight... Hoping something good may come out of this.Lol all you want,I had hoped it would of been handled better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing n autograph Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Ya MNR a could come out and do their job instead of throwing the police under the bus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musky666 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Yep, rally is because of the bear shooting. I also read a release about this that said the MNRF and other non essential services are facing a further 5.5% budget reduction- who the heck gets to decide that MNRF and our natural resources are non essential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Ya MNR a could come out and do their job instead of throwing the police under the bus I end it there Dave,two different sides,it is what it is.Hope there is new protocol for something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing n autograph Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Because of the bear shooting Dave ? Yup. A million problems in the world and the community and they are upset about a bear.... Not the increasing domestic violence or drugs or gang violence... But a bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing n autograph Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I end it there Dave,two different sides,it is what it is.Hope there is new protocol for something like this. Doubt it. This was the second bear in 8 years in our area. Not a common occurrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Doubt it. This was the second bear in 8 years in our area. Not a common occurrence Glad your positive . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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