Skud Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 I bought a canoe in a package deal with some fishing equipment and furniture. I will be selling the canoe but I don't know who the manufacture is because there are no tags or labels on the hull. Does anybody recognize the craftmanship? Any help is appreciated.
dave524 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 Could possibly be a " Red House Canoe " the seats look like Jim Holman's handiwork. He was a neighbour back in Pelham , couple miles west of Fonthill on the Canborough Road. He built canoes starting back in the 60's , I doubt he is still at it, he was a vet so he be pushing 90 now. His canoes were cedar strip and covered with light fiberglass cloth and resin instead of canvas. He was very good at wicker work and also did snow shoes and some wicker furniture. He has a large freighter canoe he made at the Canoe Museum.
Old Ironmaker Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 What a beautiful piece of artwork. What would a canoe like that be going for if I may ask?
Skud Posted April 12, 2015 Author Report Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) I would think that somewhere on the inside of the canoe there would be an engraving or something for identification. I can't find a damn thing. As for price I am not sure. Finding out who made it will help with knowing it's worth. Edited April 12, 2015 by Skud
DRIFTER_016 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 That's a cheap Chinese knock off. I'll give ya fifty bucks for it.
Old Ironmaker Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 Ha, I'm in for double that. I'll pick it up tomorrow.
Nipfisher Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 Anywhere that a plaque could have been? Any faded spots or screw marks? It could be an early Peterborough.
woodenboater Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Side view photos would help a lot as some canoes had recurves that were unique. Is there a shoe keel (about 3/4"x2 1/2" running most of the length of the canoe below waterline). But I would strongly suggest going to Wooden Canoe Heritage Association and poke around there. The Canadian Canoe Museum might be able to identify if they were to see photos but you'd need more photos and some closeups showing the deck etc.. As for value, much will depend on, as you say, the manufacturer, vintage and condition. If the planks/ribs etc are soft and punky, the value will drop as you can expect. Is it canvas covered, vinyl or glassed. The latter will again drop the value quite a bit as it make restoration a royal PITA. Don't be lowballed, look around at what other used cedar canvas canoes are worth and use that as a ballpark. Edited April 13, 2015 by woodenboater
woodenboater Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 ok, just saw the other photos. The keel is very thin compared to canoes I've owned. If the blue is original that again would help. What intrigues me is the small, what appears to be metal, cap on the deck under the stem band. Have never seen that before and this will be a key clue imo. good luck and let us know what you find out
Roy Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 I think it's an Old Town canoe. With the cane seats and all. Yup...pretty sure.
SirCranksalot Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 post the pic on myccr.com and someone will know.
bigugli Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Funny thing looking at that beautiful canoe. My uncle had a cedar tiller boat with the same style bow cap as that canoe. The boat also had similar wicker benches. I still remember when we would strip and reglass the bottom every few years.
kickingfrog Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Could also be made by someone in their garage or shop. Sure is beautiful.
dave524 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Unless it is a repair , that small dark wood triangle on the end of the deck at both ends is a pretty unique feature, could help with the ID if it is a trademark of the manufacturer. " Chestnut " was another well known maker, think they were in the Muskokas. I'd look at $1500 as a minimum, more if it is a desireable collectable. edit: It is not the neighbour I originally thought, looking at an old pic he had an thin ash or oak board running lengthwise down the centre. I remember this one being built, glad it is still being put to good use. http://www.canoemuseum.ca/blog/2014/09/11/season-of-the-beast Edited April 13, 2015 by dave524
Skud Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 The dark material at each end of the canoe is actually some sort of soft, flexible cloth material. The metal (brass) strip on each end continues down to the bottom of the canoe for a couple of feet to protect from rock damage I presume. The wood has no rot what so ever, solid as a rock. It does have an outer coating of fiberglass I think that is not original. I will find out how long ago it was done but the canoe has barely been used since. I will post more pics tonight.
Skud Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 The blue outer shell is canvas and was done about 6 years ago.
woodenboater Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 what are the dimension ? length x width ?
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