fishindevil Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 http://outdoorcanada.ca/35904/news/articles/taste-for-illegal-caviar-nets-ontario-men-over-20k-in-fines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Wow! Why such a low fine though??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted April 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ya really should be prison time !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 But they are still allowed to fish?????????????? Thats our system for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracokaos Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 i wonder if the fine was low and they are still allowed to fish because they got the eggs and fish from someone. They didn't actually do the poaching. Plus they may have given some info to help nail the guy who they got it from... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) i wonder if the fine was low and they are still allowed to fish because they got the eggs and fish from someone. They didn't actually do the poaching. Plus they may have given some info to help nail the guy who they got it from... Like I said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Our system. I dont give a rats They were part of the on goings. GUILTY Edited April 11, 2014 by Misfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucktownAngler Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 since when is 10k low? i've seen poachers get fined way less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucktownAngler Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ya really should be prison time !!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 since when is 10k low? i've seen poachers get fined way less $10,000 is a hefty fine IMO BUT Why do they get to keep fishing? 3-5 year fishing ban should of been added as well IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted April 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Lifetime ban !!!! Never mind 3-5 !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Lifetime ban !!!! Never mind 3-5 !!!! Now we both know that a life time ban would only mean they would fish again. Nothing more to lose but cash and fishing gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 10k a piece for possession of roe and meat is pretty hefty. It reads to me that the only offence is possessing it, and that they sourced the fish and eggs from another party. Pretty hard to ban them from fishing when you can't prove they obtained the roe from angling! Seriously though, people suggesting jail time for fisheries offences is a bit over the top. A 10k fine is pretty stiff for that sort of charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I understand the symbolism but Poachers aren't going to care if they have their licences revoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 10k a piece for possession of roe and meat is pretty hefty. It reads to me that the only offence is possessing it, and that they sourced the fish and eggs from another party. Pretty hard to ban them from fishing when you can't prove they obtained the roe from angling! Seriously though, people suggesting jail time for fisheries offences is a bit over the top. A 10k fine is pretty stiff for that sort of charge. Jail time I can understand that point. Not going to happen. They were caught in a fish and game act. Give the stiffest fine possible,which means,add ban of fishing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redpearl99 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 you cant possess sturgeon eggs at all???? what about the ones I can buy at the St. Lawrence Market?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) $10,000 is a hefty fine IMO BUT Why do they get to keep fishing? 3-5 year fishing ban should of been added as well IMO. regardless of the number hunting and fishing priveledges should be revoked Edited April 11, 2014 by manitoubass2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtucciarone Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 I think giving them 10 years of mandatory community service geared towards fishery enhancement would be more beneficial. The 20 thousand in fines will never make it back into improving the fishery and a prison sentence will only end up costing us way more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowSlayer101 Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 should have been fined waaay more IMO, they could have sold those eggs illegally, which they most likely would, they would easily make $250 for 100 gram of roe, they had 27 pounds of the stuff! You be the judge, i think a 3-5 years ban would be fair but they would most likely keep fishing illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowSlayer101 Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 you cant possess sturgeon eggs at all???? what about the ones I can buy at the St. Lawrence Market?? you can buy them but you can't catch a sturgeon and take the eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 you cant possess sturgeon eggs at all???? what about the ones I can buy at the St. Lawrence Market?? Those are farmed with a license, you can't catch and sell sturgeon or any protected species in Ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowSlayer101 Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Those are farmed with a license, you can't catch and sell sturgeon or any protected species in Ontario. or shipped from Europe..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 $10k each isn't enough and the fines should have been higher with jail time? People, they are FISH. It's not like they committed crimes against other humans. As for lifetime fishing bans, that wouldn't solve anything. If they knowingly broke the law, why on earth would an order not to fish somehow stop them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Just sever their right hands and be done with it, if that doesn't learn them then there's always the left But seriously, the charges should be similar to drug charges. You get a smaller sentence if it's under a certain amount and a larger sentence if you have intent to traffic. With the quantities these guys had, they didn't have it for personal consumption, the intent to sell is surely there. Should be a stiffer punishment for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxie Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 How about they were tied up and forced to eat the roe and raw meat until they stopped moving? No need to waste dollars housing them in a corrections spa or need to revoke fishing privileges or worry about them being a party to such endeavours again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallie Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 How about they were tied up and forced to eat the roe and raw meat until they stopped moving? No need to waste dollars housing them in a corrections spa or need to revoke fishing privileges or worry about them being a party to such endeavours again. You know, i dont think i agree with a few of the things you say(it happens) but i love this idea. At least it wont go to waste... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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