glen Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Will bettman continue to ruin my game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Yes. It is what he does and he does it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musky_hunter Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 game sucks as it is....salary cap system sucks...players suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigger Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Everyone in hockey makes too much money as it is. This whole negotiation is a farce imo and i wont be paying much attention to it until the seaon starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 This poll needs a "Do you care?" option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 This poll needs a "Do you care?" option. Change the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Change the station. The comment was meant to display that people are tired of these labour disputes in the NHL. But I guess some people are touchy about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Not touchy. Just find it interesting how often people will respond and follow a thread that they will claim they don't care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Missed the point again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Missed the point again Yes you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufus Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 It seems that "absence makes the heart grow fonder" as far as hockey fans are concerned. Attendance increased after the last two lockouts so there is little reason to not have a lockout by the looks of it. http://www.canadianbusiness.com/blog/business_briefings/97168--gary-bettman-is-right-about-nhl-fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 It seems that "absence makes the heart grow fonder" as far as hockey fans are concerned. Attendance increased after the last two lockouts so there is little reason to not have a lockout by the looks of it. http://www.canadianbusiness.com/blog/business_briefings/97168--gary-bettman-is-right-about-nhl-fans We (the fans) are our own worst enemies. We've always come back and the owners have, and are, basing their lockout on this fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 I would like to have hockey on tv to help get me though the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 I would like to have hockey on tv to help get me though the winter. Ice fishing will do it for me. As long as the ice isn't locked out. (Last year sucked down here in southern Ontario). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Don't hockey players earn a salary per year?, many times over our salaries per year. I just don't get what more should they receive?. Short work span I get it. but if you gave me 2 plus million a year for say 10 years,that's still more than most of us would make in over 5- 10 life spans unless my math is off.Love the game,but no need to be locked out IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 The owners are locking out the players. The owners (none of whom have a significant amount of their vast wealth tied up in their nhl teams) are trying to take more of the revenue from the players. The owners continue to sign the big contracts, while claiming they can't afford to. They are either liars or the worst businessmen in the world. (I pick liars.) The owners want a socialized system of paying the players, while not sharing the revenue amongst themselves. Hypocrites. The owners have never once had someone pay a $120 to watch them work. Who would watch an old saggy azzed white guy sit on his butt and find more ways to not pay his taxes? The owners said they needed cost certainly and that ticket prices would go down if there was a cap. They got it and it didn't. Every beer league bozzo says that they would play for free. blah blah blah Easy to say when you own family won't watch you play for free. Imagine how it would go over if your company was making money hand over fist and they came to you and said "We're going to take 24% of your salary." And we are going to reduce your opportunity to make money in the future even though you are the sole reason we make any money. We can shake our head all we want and say they make too much money but they only get paid what the market will bear, well almost, since the owners have a cap. No one has ever been forced to pay for a hockey ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 The owners are locking out the players. The owners (none of whom have a significant amount of their vast wealth tied up in their nhl teams) are trying to take more of the revenue from the players. The owners continue to sign the big contracts, while claiming they can't afford to. They are either liars or the worst businessmen in the world. (I pick liars.) The owners want a socialized system of paying the players, while not sharing the revenue amongst themselves. Hypocrites. The owners have never once had someone pay a $120 to watch them work. Who would watch an old saggy azzed white guy sit on his butt and find more ways to not pay his taxes? The owners said they needed cost certainly and that ticket prices would go down if there was a cap. They got it and it didn't. Every beer league bozzo says that they would play for free. blah blah blah Easy to say when you own family won't watch you play for free. Imagine how it would go over if your company was making money hand over fist and they came to you and said "We're going to take 24% of your salary." And we are going to reduce your opportunity to make money in the future even though you are the sole reason we make any money. We can shake our head all we want and say they make too much money but they only get paid what the market will bear, well almost, since the owners have a cap. No one has ever been forced to pay for a hockey ticket. Very good clarification. Did not know they wanted to deduct salaries, after all the bosses did sign the contracts!,right?.And still continue to do so I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiel Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 The collapse of the entire NHL would have no bearing on my everyday life. They've long passed the ability of the average family to take in a short evening of mild entertainment. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 One of the owners who signed 2 free agents for 186 million dollars was on the ownership comity that asked for the 24% rollback. I wonder how many other owners knew of this rollback request while biding on free agents? I wonder if any of the players knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Get out of the house, drive to your local arena and watch the kids play hockey. Much better entertainment value than watching overpaid NHL players anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubbex1 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Get out of the house, drive to your local arena and watch the kids play hockey. Much better entertainment value than watching overpaid NHL players anyway. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danc Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 It was the last lockout/strike that made me lose interest in hockey. If not for the Phaneuf hang out thing that I won a while back, I'd still have little interest. Bottom line here is that lots of OFNérs don't like hockey, and lots of OFNérs couldn't care less about what what song you're listening to right now. Variety is the spice of life, so they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broker Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Just wondering here, if NHL goes on strike, does the AHL go too? I find the bulldogs way to overpriced anyway, when I can get into my local JR game for a twoonie, nothing beats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 If the players are locked out the ahl will still play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) Get out of the house, drive to your local arena and watch the kids play hockey. Much better entertainment value than watching overpaid NHL players anyway. +1 +2 This past year I went with my son to his first Marlies game and it was a blast. Edited September 2, 2012 by jchau53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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