lookinforwalleye Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Was doing a little fishing along Avery Point yesterday and came upon this property, There is an extensive dock maybe 100 or so feet out into the lake some area`s are roped off and there is an official MNR sign that says no fishing spawning area!!! This guy has a fishing net and a rod in a rod holder ready to go I guess he is allowed to fish in the "spawning area"! I was wondering if the MNR would be interested in knowing that people are borrowing their signs and using them? The guy saw me taking pictures and came out of his cottage and he did look angry,I just left wasn`t really interest in getting into an argument! That`s a first for me I think!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2jack2 Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Yo should give the MNR a call..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 The had the authorities in before and was issued a warning a few years back. Their are a number of cottagers along that stretch of shore trying to claim extended "water rights" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Hey .. give the guys some credit, at least he knows what his teenage daughter does down there at night ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokka Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 100 ft out is excessive.. plus the sign.. i would be fishing just to piss him off.. what's he going to do? Best fish will be under that big dock! I wonder if you ran into that thing at night if he would get charged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexstar Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 i would give mnr and local by law office a call to see if his dock and sign is legal. He doesn't own the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinguypat Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 He didn't do anything to you or to your knowledge do anything wrong so why you be hatin'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketclam Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Sounds like theft to me. On a related note, and this ties into a whole bunch of conversation threads that I've read here before, I came across this from the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act: Section 38. The ownership of the bed of a river, lake or navigable body of water does not give the owner the exclusive right to fish in the water that flows over the bed unless that right is granted by the Crown. Take that for what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) Don't anyone get too high and mighty without reading the fellows original land patent! Dalrymple's a flooded lake, no? Edited August 22, 2011 by irishfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketclam Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Don't anyone get too high and mighty without reading the fellows original land patent! Dalrymple's a flooded lake, no? A flooded lake, does not a spawning area necessarily make. But yes, there's a chance that the MNR put the sign on his dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toca Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 i would give mnr and local by law office a call to see if his dock and sign is legal. He doesn't own the water. i had a smart ass neighbour park his big ass pickup truck on a shared laneway.... got to the point that it got really difficult to park the car so i call the proper authorities and it was two tickets before he got the message. Now He Just Park His Small Crap Box AND Messed Up The Front Siding Of His Garage. would have snuck in at night and loosen up his rope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I really don`t care about this guys dock there have been numerous threads over the years on property owners rights and for the most part the degrade into a locked thread. My only real interest here is the sign, I doubt very much if this sign was placed there by the ministry. Just curious where this guy got the sign and just as curious if the ministry would like too know that a property owner is using their signs. I think I`ll send it to the MNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregoire Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 What about the roped off area? Would that require a special permit as well, or rights to the lake bed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 What about the roped off area? Would that require a special permit as well, or rights to the lake bed? Roping off an area to provide a safe swimming area for people is no crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alumacraft Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Wait and see if he fish's off HIS dock and if you see him fishing off HIS dock call the MNR and tell them there is someone fishing in a posted sanctuary. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I would think roping off part of the lake would need a permit to be legal...think I will rope off cooks bay......if it's not illegal and to post a sign would be 100% illegal if the MNR didn't post it hey lets all go there this saturday and park our boats all around that area and flip his docks..which is not illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Hey .. give the guys some credit, at least he knows what his teenage daughter does down there at night ! Yes Wayne there may be some spawning going on down at the dock but it ain`t the local walleye population!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 E-mail has been sent to the MNR we`ll see what happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 And every year the docks and ropes get moved a little further out into the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyb Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think roping off the swimming area your family uses is really not a bad idea....keeps things nice and simple. I think his sign is fake....not stolen from the MNR....certainly not posted by the MNR. No question I'd be casting to that big dock with the waterslide though....gotta be some fish under there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookerdown Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Thats a shame, I go up there a few times every year, usually openner. I got many fish off of Avery Point. Is it on the same side of the shole or on the Herring Island side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnimon Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Roping off an area to provide a safe swimming area for people is no crime. In my own opinion, roping off an area dedicated for swimming and having fun,disturbing spawning beds, esp in a spawning area is wrong. Would that be considered as an infraction, in the mnr's eyes? Im sure most of us wouldnt consider doing that, while crossing creeks, rivers etc. I did ask a close family members husband if there was any public access to the lake(they have a cottage there). The answer was a strict absolutely NOT! Now I do see the attitude that is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Thats a shame, I go up there a few times every year, usually openner. I got many fish off of Avery Point. Is it on the same side of the shole or on the Herring Island side? Shoal side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think roping off the swimming area your family uses is really not a bad idea....keeps things nice and simple. I think his sign is fake....not stolen from the MNR....certainly not posted by the MNR. No question I'd be casting to that big dock with the waterslide though....gotta be some fish under there. That sign has the Trillum and the Ontario provincial stamp on it. It's definitely not fake. He probably stole it, lol!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregoire Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 In my own opinion, roping off an area dedicated for swimming and having fun,disturbing spawning beds, esp in a spawning area is wrong. Would that be considered as an infraction, in the mnr's eyes? Im sure most of us wouldnt consider doing that, while crossing creeks, rivers etc. I did ask a close family members husband if there was any public access to the lake(they have a cottage there). The answer was a strict absolutely NOT! Now I do see the attitude that is there. That his a horrible attitude to have, but one that I guess is far too prevalent on some bodies of water. I hope you know that there is a public launch on the lake, according to the interweb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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