MCTFisher9120 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Hello again OFC, hope everybody has been catching more fish than I have been. Haven't been out in a few weeks for any fishing...got to handle lot's last week during my Fall Field Camp on Sturgeon but it's just not the same!! Anyway, Dad and I are up for a 9.9hp motor for our 12' boat. I know it might be a small boat but hey in my eye's I'll always need and use a small boat, northern Ontario trips,back lake camping, or for the next few years while I'm still in school this boat will stay in our family for a long time. We have decided on getting a 9.9hp 4 stroke outboard. A clean, quiet, fuel efficient NEW motor. Here are a few options I have looked at. And of course prices will change when dealers offer specials and rebates. My main question is what brand...I've looked into Mercury, Yamaha, Honda, and Suzuki motors and all are priced in the same range. Here is my little research chart on the different weights with these motors with the prices(except Mercury, stupid site doesn't have one price on it...not very helpful but if somebody can fill in the blank for me it would be appreciated) Honda 9.9hp 4 Stroke Short Shaft Manual Start $2999MSRP 92lbs Mercury 9.9hp 4 Stroke Manual Start Short Shaft Cost______ 83lbs Yamaha 9.9hp 4 Stroke Manual Start Short Shaft $3157 91lbs Suzuki 9.9hp 4 Stroke Manual Start Short Shaft Cost_____ 95lbs Well there is what I dug up. In all honestly a Mercury or Yamaha seems to be the best option but I don't want to count out the other two. Looking to hear some stories of customer support, motor servicing at dealerships etc...Just a little insight before getting a boat motor. Thanks, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 My work has gradually switched over to the yamaha outboards. we have a 4hp, a bunch of 8-15hp, and a few 25-30hp, and they are all phenomenal motors. We put them through hell running the rivers and we've had very few problems. The only downside I saw of these (and all 4strokes in general) is that they don't idle down nicely like the 2 strokes. BUT, other than that, I know my next motor will be a yammy (presently I own an early 90's Merc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Michael, I'd go Yammy or Merc. I have a Merc 4 stroke 60HP and it idles down to nothing......don't understand why a 9.9 wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I'm running a 150 Yamaha 4 stroke Mike and after 2 seasons it still purrs like the day I picked it up, and I have full confidence that a smaller Yamaha would be excellent as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillj Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I love my old Johnson Seahorse(s) .. they re great and will putt along at zero-point-five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) I have a 2006 mercury 115 4 stroke. 5 seasons of pure bliss. Not 1 problem. I have a 2003 mercury 9.9 kicker. The same. From what I can tell you can not go wrong with any of the manufacturers. They all seem to make a solid motor. Honda's seem a bit heavy though. I would not count out a 2 stroke either. Good luck Edited October 3, 2010 by Grimace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) Here's another place to check prices, my son has an older '92 Honda 8, runs like a top. I had an old '84 7.5 years ago, never a problem and now a '96 25 Honda on my boat, no problems. I think if I was to go with another brand, it would be Suzuki. http://www.spmw.com/ Edited October 3, 2010 by Fisherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I have an 8hp merc 4stroke.smooth, starts 1st pull.quiet and easy on gas.Go merc.I love mercury,as you can see by my avatar.Love how they look,sound,feel and smell. I'd sleep with it if i could.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Buy a brand that you can get parts for. Oil filters and a repair shop nearby. Other then that i would get one that will charge a battery. You might be able to save a few bucks if you can find a good used one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeslayer Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 http://spoonpullers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sale&action=display&thread=13224 2000 9.9 yam my for $1500. Thought you might want look @ this. Pikeslayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I think you'll find most people happy with whatever brand they own. That's a good thing, means they're all pretty good - buy the one you get the best deal on and can service without hassle near you. Until you start moving up to bigger motors (25-30+), I'd be looking at a 2 stroke if I were you. 1) It'll be cheaper, 2) It'll be lighter - might be a big deal on a 12'. Modern 2 strokes are pretty darn efficient and clean, the difference between one and a 4-str will be negligable in that size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhenrygsr Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Buy a brand that you can get parts for. Oil filters and a repair shop nearby. Other then that i would get one that will charge a battery. You might be able to save a few bucks if you can find a good used one. Good point. Service after the sale is very important. Merc has accomplish this by having the biggest Dealer link in North America. Majority of Marina's are Merc dealers and service centers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhenrygsr Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Here is MSRP from Merc 9.9M 4-Stroke $3202 our pricing $2342 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCTFisher9120 Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Here is MSRP from Merc 9.9M 4-Stroke $3202 our pricing $2342 I'll be in touch with a price like that. Send me a msg in a few months if you remember but that's a very good price in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhenrygsr Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Yea Mike. no probs at all all brand new 2010 outboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappieperchhunter Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Until you start moving up to bigger motors (25-30+), I'd be looking at a 2 stroke if I were you. 1) It'll be cheaper, 2) It'll be lighter - might be a big deal on a 12'. Modern 2 strokes are pretty darn efficient and clean, the difference between one and a 4-str will be negligable in that size. That's why I have a 2 stroke. Some of my fav spots I have to haul the boat and motor into because there is no launch, and the 4 stoke is much heavier. Your not going to spend much in a season on fuel for a 9.9 regardless if it is a 2 or a 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scugpg Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I'd go with a Honda or Yamaha. Merc would be a close 3rd choice. That's just personal preference. I don't think you can really go wrong with a small motor like that. Like others mentioned warranty and local parts is a big plus. If the 12 can hold a 15hp I would consider that though. Same weight and don't you have a casting deck etc on it as well? Might like that extra power if it has a deck and a couple of big guys in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Have had many different types of motors from seahorse to Merc. I ended up with two 4 stroke Yammy's one of which is a 9.9. I have heard about and seen issues with larger Mercs, etecs, Johnsons. I havent seen or heard of any with Yamaha. Different strokes for different folks they say. Hope yer happy with what you decide on. Then there's Honda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) I would also point out that before 2007 merc 4 strokes were manufactured by Yamaha. My 2006 merc 115 which I love is technically a yamaha. Not sure about the smaller sizes. Edited October 4, 2010 by Grimace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) Mike, my Honda 8HP 4-stroke is great. It also has an alternator built in so I run a cable to my batt. for the fish finder and it charges it as long as the motor is running. Mine is over 12 years old and is still going very strong. I would get a used Honda any day! In fact, I think I had seen one in the classified here not that long ago... Edited October 4, 2010 by GBW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I would also seriously consider a 2 stroker for that small boat....not only weight wise (which is important) but also power wise....on my last fly-in trip to Ivanhoe the owner told me he sold all his 1 year old 4 stroker 9 hp Yammies and replaced them with 2 strokers because of all the complaints from clients that they were having planing out. AND you can save some money to boot. GOOD LUCK, Bob BTW if you are near any fishing camps / cottages that replace their outboards every year or so maybe you can snag a nice deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhenrygsr Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) 2-Strokes are still good outboards. But are becoming dinosaur motors. Merc has stopped production back in 2009 for conventional 2-strokes they still make the opti cause it's compliant to California emissions. Buying a 2 Stroke is like going back in time. Pollution, noisy, Smokey mixing and carbon build up. It is nice to be able to troll without raising your voice, smelling smoke and oil in the water. Doing 1 oil change a year and straight gas fill up is a Plus in my Book. Doesn't matter what brand you go with they are all great outboards. Personal preference is what it comes down to GM, Dodge, Import etc... Edited October 4, 2010 by Henry Nguyen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scugpg Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 With how light the 4 strokes are becoming I wouldn't even consider a 2 stroke anymore. I believe the smaller Mercury outboards are made by Tohatsu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigdritchie Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) With how light the 4 strokes are becoming I wouldn't even consider a 2 stroke anymore. I believe the smaller Mercury outboards are made by Tohatsu. Completely agree - unless you plan to load it in and out of float planes on a daily basis, I would not even consider a two-stroke now. There's just no good reason to cling to 1950s technology any more. Edited October 5, 2010 by Craig_Ritchie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhenrygsr Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 With how light the 4 strokes are becoming I wouldn't even consider a 2 stroke anymore. I believe the smaller Mercury outboards are made by Tohatsu. Completely agree - unless you plan to load it in and out of float planes on a daily basis, I would not even consider a two-stroke now. There's just no good reason to cling to 1950s technology any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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