SBCregal Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 You never know how the water will react when boat wakes meet and you're caught between them. if thats the case, maybe you shouldnt be traveling as fast as you possibly can. glad everybody turned out okay. ryan
HTHM Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 Heck, I got schooled by JP's misfortune, what about you? So maybe JP is schoolin' all of us???
SRT8 smoker craft Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 Just curious how you know he wasn't wearing his killswitch I got tossed off a seadoo and the teather ripped off my lifejacket and the machine circled me untill I was able to swim to it with a busted up lifejacket slowing me down.J.P hope your OK
Toronto_Angler Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 I don't see anything funny about this at all. Its actually quite a serious situation and shouldnt be taken lightly in lieu of all the unfortuante incidents from this weekend. I'm glad he's ok.
spinnerbaitking Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 My partner & I were fishing & JP & Greg came along & we mentioned that the water was like 84 degrees & JP said that they knew they'd been swimming then he told us what happened & we both thought I don't think I'd be fishing the rest of the day but wow, there was a comment made later it was Greg's 1st tourney & maybe his 1st ride in a bass boat, one he'll never forget, JP can tell you the rest if he wants too, very glad every body seemed OK Richard
jedimaster Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 Not a great weekend on the water at all. Having been in many Bass tournaments myself maybe its time for the bigger tourneys to consider breaking the fields down and doing staggered starts, one off at a time like most clubs do. Its one thing to follow a wake its another thing to try and straddle a wake. Its very dangerous, for those that haven't been over 70 or 80 on the water its very hard to explain, but you are not only driving a boat you are flying a plane partially attatched to the water. I too am surprised this doesn't happen more often. As for those of you who think just go slower. Thats never gonna happen. 50 boats idling with 200+HP under the hand, first to the best spot... Big money on the line... adrenaline etc.... this is one of those things where the organizers will need to take control, like manditory life jackets etc... There are rules in auto racin and essentially none in Bass Tourney's. As long as more than one boat guns it at once off the line this will always be possible. If you read this JP, hope you and Greg are ok. I would love to hear more about this and your reaction on your show or on a website one day once you shake the cob webs.
spinnerbaitking Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Not a great weekend on the water at all. Having been in many Bass tournaments myself maybe its time for the bigger tourneys to consider breaking the fields down and doing staggered starts, one off at a time like most clubs do. Its one thing to follow a wake its another thing to try and straddle a wake. Its very dangerous, for those that haven't been over 70 or 80 on the water its very hard to explain, but you are not only driving a boat you are flying a plane partially attatched to the water. I too am surprised this doesn't happen more often. As for those of you who think just go slower. Thats never gonna happen. 50 boats idling with 200+HP under the hand, first to the best spot... Big money on the line... adrenaline etc.... this is one of those things where the organizers will need to take control, like manditory life jackets etc... There are rules in auto racin and essentially none in Bass Tourney's. As long as more than one boat guns it at once off the line this will always be possible. If you read this JP, hope you and Greg are ok. I would love to hear more about this and your reaction on your show or on a website one day once you shake the cob webs. There was 3 flights of boats that were called out one boat at a time 1st 7am 2nd 7:15 & ours at 7:30 & you must have your life jacket on if the big motor is running or be dq'd, the boats that will go quicker obviously will catch & pass other boats & that will happen if your in a tourney or not, just watch the jet ski's, boats pulling skier or wake boards & throw in the wind to make things interesting, it was very unfortunate but at least they were OK, good lesson learned for many hopefully Richard
jedimaster Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Thats good to hear, not much more you can do than that. I have no idea even what series it is, but it sounds like they are doing well. Just gotta be careful. at high speeds or even moderate speeds crossing wakes, wind and everything involved boating is dangerous. Good to hear that they were ok. There was 3 flights of boats that were called out one boat at a time 1st 7am 2nd 7:15 & ours at 7:30 & you must have your life jacket on if the big motor is running or be dq'd, the boats that will go quicker obviously will catch & pass other boats & that will happen if your in a tourney or not, just watch the jet ski's, boats pulling skier or wake boards & throw in the wind to make things interesting, it was very unfortunate but at least they were OK, good lesson learned for many hopefully Richard
mbac31 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 I have been on boats since I was around 2 years old. I have taken courses and have a Captains licence as well from Commercial fishing. Yet I still got tossed out once on my bass boat. It does happen and it was from a rouge wave that was impossible to see. Not a fun experience. Good to see that JP and his partner got out safe. Shows it can happen to the best of us. Basscats are not known for good slicing through water wakes. By the sounds of it he seemed to handle it very well. Good on him. From what I can understand he had his tether switch attached and thats what stopped the boat quick. This shows what type of character he has as well. To laugh and go fishing for the rest of the day tells me that he has schooled and tamed that boat. LMAO. He is at Icast I would assume and thats why he is not on here. He is about just as big as me and we hit the water like a sack full of sand. Lol.
spinnerbaitking Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Thats good to hear, not much more you can do than that. I have no idea even what series it is, but it sounds like they are doing well. Just gotta be careful. at high speeds or even moderate speeds crossing wakes, wind and everything involved boating is dangerous. Good to hear that they were ok. Not a Series it is The Canadian Bass Anglers Federation & we were fishing a qualifier to try out for Team Ontario for next year there are 9 clubs that are part of the CBAF which is Affiliated with The Bass Federation & The FLW, a great bunch of guys & gals that are out for fun & a little competition, there is also School Clubs, College & Junior Clubs starting here in Ontario that is affiliated with the 3 organizations, check it out if you wish http://cbaf.ca/ & http://www.bassfeder...n.com/index.php THE CBAF CANADIAN COLLEGIATE BASS CHAMPIONSHIP Lake Eugenia August 15th 2010. 700a-300p Must be a member of the CBAF Must have a valid student card Draw Format Tournament Richard
JPD Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) Hi everyone, I just arrived in Vegas yesterday afternoon and unfortunately had to receive several emails regarding this post. Thanks you to those who were concerned, everyone involved is doing great with the exception of a few bruises to the legs.. here is a post I made on the CBAF board yesterday before leaving: In all seriousness we (Greg and I) were very fortunate to get out of that situation with minor bumps and bruises to our legs... for the past 10 years I have been driving bass boats with little to no fear and it wasn't a hot dogging thing that caught us this weekend or a type of boat thing... this has happened to people who drive other brands, it was rather a bad combination of wakes that twisted the front end enough to hook the boat. It happened in a split second and was really an eye opener for me since I have always been the aggressor behind the wheel trusting fully in my driving ability. Everyone should seriously realize that no matter how experienced you are it can happen and when it does I can only wish it ends up like our incident did. The only thing wrong with the boat was a broken tilt steering.. the force was so great that I snapped the aluminum bracket that holds the steering wheel in place while holding on with a death grip. Luckily neither of us blacked out on water impact since we can recount every detail including my head being underwater and out of water 3 times as I cartwheeled across the surface at over 60 mph! A huge thanks to Doug for turning around and retrieving my boat with Todd Richardson and to Blake for stopping and running back to make sure no one was going to run us over... Greg is doing great, I talked to him today and I can only reiterate that we were very fortunate. I know for myself that a life jacket with kill switch will be on any time I start my boat from here forward and I strongly urge everyone do the same no matter how fast you think you're going to drive or how small the lake. You can easily get ejected at 40 mph in a hook and anything above that is no treat. As much as I would love to have had that on tape because I think my body did things that only a gymnast can do I would also love to see how the hell my shoe and sock was ripped from my right foot. I already know how much resentment there can be on this board for people with bass boats so I think I should explain the situation even though I shouldn't have to. Here are the facts from the horses mouth regarding the occurrence, not "hear say" from someone who never witnessed the incident at all... 1. I was passing my friend Doug when this occurred but not at full speed by any means... my boat is fully capable of running high 70's for speed and was only doing low 60's while crossing as I always do. 2. The boat hooking was the direct result of a rogue wave broadsiding us while crossing a series of 3 wakes left by another competitor, when we hit that wave it picked the nose of the boat up and we came down a bit off skew throwing the boat into a full hard left turn instantly... I have done this thousands of times in my life and never ended up with this result, ever! I have fished 2 tournaments with the Puma and passed probably 50 guys with no problems... just a freak occurrence is how I'm treating it. 3. Anyone who can joke about being whipped across the water at over 60 mph should think about the correlation of jumping out a car while on the 400 hwy series and think how much fun that would be... thankfully Greg and I landed well so we can joke about this. 4. This did not shatter either of us, we were in good spirits all day, fished the event and had a great day... what I did take from the day was a new respect of stuff that we can't control and realize that there is more of it out there than I thought when on the water. 5. Life jackets were on and I had forgot the kill switch on the motor but thankfully I have a Hotfoot in the boat which brings the boat to idle speed immediately when there is no pressure on it. Again, thanks for all the well wishes from those who asked.. I'm in a meeting in 45 minutes... then busy filming all week, I'll try to pop in. JP Edited July 13, 2010 by JPD
Spiel Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Thanks for taking the time JP to give us the facts. I'm pleased to know that both you and Greg have come out of this intact and in good spirits.
LucG Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Glad to hear you OK JP! Keep on fishing, and keep on filming!
Spiel Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Just thought I might add for those that run big tillers like me that wearing your kill tether attatched to your life vest does little good when you fall backwards towards the motor. I learned the hard way with what could have been fatal for me, I now strap the kill tether to my left wrist so that if my hand comes off the throttle the motor will (hopefully) cut out.
hirk Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Well put JP,I was gonna post on this yesterday and take the same tack as you.Many people on this board that don't run boats capable of 50mph + may assume that you were careless running your boat balls to the wall and got bit,this would be WRONG to assume as it can happen to a guy in a tinny with a 115hp just as easy.Accidents will always happen regardless of the amount of care taken to avoid them,thats why they are called accidents.What happened to JP has nothing to do with being reckless (I'm assuming JP:)) or the fact his boat runs fast so any tone in this thread implying he caused it or it shouldn't have happened because he's JP etc. is crap,anyone anytime can get wet.
Twocoda Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 There is a famous leprechaun that once said "count yer lucky stars" The best way to teach is through practical...amazes me the limits some people will go through to teach Glad all are well cheers
SRT8 smoker craft Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Glad you are OK J.P and your buddy Greg is not to scared to get in the boat with ya
Harrison Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) Glad all is good JP. Scary for sure. Happened to us on Rice right at the North tip of Margrets. The mix of a cabin cruiser wake and the waves/current off the point caught us. We never left the boat, but bruised ourselves up good. Edited July 13, 2010 by Harrison
hirk Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 I have been on boats since I was around 2 years old. I have taken courses and have a Captains licence as well from Commercial fishing. Yet I still got tossed out once on my bass boat. It does happen and it was from a rouge wave that was impossible to see. Not a fun experience. Good to see that JP and his partner got out safe. Shows it can happen to the best of us. Basscats are not known for good slicing through water wakes. By the sounds of it he seemed to handle it very well. Good on him. From what I can understand he had his tether switch attached and thats what stopped the boat quick. This shows what type of character he has as well. To laugh and go fishing for the rest of the day tells me that he has schooled and tamed that boat. LMAO. He is at Icast I would assume and thats why he is not on here. He is about just as big as me and we hit the water like a sack full of sand. Lol.
hirk Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 marvin its gooch u mean like a sack of crap !!!! haha lol...
RudeBuoy Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Good thing Cats have nine lives... Now just try to keep 'em at 8. Glad nobody was injured. -
solopaddler Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 Hi everyone, I just arrived in Vegas yesterday afternoon and unfortunately had to receive several emails regarding this post. Thanks you to those who were concerned, everyone involved is doing great with the exception of a few bruises to the legs.. here is a post I made on the CBAF board yesterday before leaving: I already know how much resentment there can be on this board for people with bass boats so I think I should explain the situation even though I shouldn't have to. Here are the facts from the horses mouth regarding the occurrence, not "hear say" from someone who never witnessed the incident at all... 1. I was passing my friend Doug when this occurred but not at full speed by any means... my boat is fully capable of running high 70's for speed and was only doing low 60's while crossing as I always do. 2. The boat hooking was the direct result of a rogue wave broadsiding us while crossing a series of 3 wakes left by another competitor, when we hit that wave it picked the nose of the boat up and we came down a bit off skew throwing the boat into a full hard left turn instantly... I have done this thousands of times in my life and never ended up with this result, ever! I have fished 2 tournaments with the Puma and passed probably 50 guys with no problems... just a freak occurrence is how I'm treating it. 3. Anyone who can joke about being whipped across the water at over 60 mph should think about the correlation of jumping out a car while on the 400 hwy series and think how much fun that would be... thankfully Greg and I landed well so we can joke about this. 4. This did not shatter either of us, we were in good spirits all day, fished the event and had a great day... what I did take from the day was a new respect of stuff that we can't control and realize that there is more of it out there than I thought when on the water. 5. Life jackets were on and I had forgot the kill switch on the motor but thankfully I have a Hotfoot in the boat which brings the boat to idle speed immediately when there is no pressure on it. Again, thanks for all the well wishes from those who asked.. I'm in a meeting in 45 minutes... then busy filming all week, I'll try to pop in. JP Wow you guys hit the water at 60mph? That's crazy. Very very glad to hear you're okay.
misfish Posted July 13, 2010 Report Posted July 13, 2010 I already know how much resentment there can be on this board for people with bass boats so I think I should explain the situation even though I shouldn't have to. No you shouldnt have to JP,but you did, and hopefully for those that resent,get the pic of what it takes to handle a machine like yours. Thanks for posting, and again,glad you and Greg are mending well. On a lighter side note,did Charles break anything?
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