Guest Johnny Bass Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) Decided to go fishing with my friend on monday(my-Birthday). I go fishing every year on my birthday. This road trip was like no other that I have been on as I was listening to country music and enjoying it all the way up!lol Really relaxing. I must be getting old!!!Stopped by to get some subs at subway and sign up for the Dave Mercer contest! We picked Buckhorn because it was going to be very strong Northern winds and I figure we fish the north end of Buckhorn and stay out of the wind. Had a late start and didn't get to the lake until about noon. Rented a boat at sunrise resort. Really good guy. $80+tax(gas included) from 8 till dark and 6 till dark on weekends. He told us the musky slowed down as soon as it opened but the pickerel were everywhere. We launched with high hopes. Never been here in the spring, only the fall and we do exceptionally well for musky. It was pretty windy and the wind was supposed to be a NW wind but it seemed to be coming more from the W than the N. So we were only in the strike zone(weedline) for a limited time.Started casting and didn't get a sniff for a good 45 minutes. Seen the first musky follow on a deep weedline. Was less than 30 inches but a start. Promising. I'm throwing the musky spinnerbait and she is throwing the grub. Gotta get her more of those pheonix grubs(its all about confidence). Never mind the pickerel. The largies were everywhere and we didn't fish under 10 FOW. Mind you none over a pound and a 1/2. We kept moving and we kept hitting them. Tried a few pickerel spots and put on the bucktail jig. My lure for this year is the bucktail. Every year I pic a new lure to use and this is it for this year. Worked it, worked it, worked it. NOTHING. Starting to get frustrated. Switched back the the spinner bait and had another small musky follow. Went to our next spot. Nothing but largies. The good news is I'm nailing them on the bucktail and getting some confidence. Went to another spot.She nailed a smallie. Went to my go to spot for pics and I nailed a LM bass. At this point I am getting frustarted. Want to catch my first bucktail pickerel. We are working a weed flat but the drift is fast. So I started way inside the weedline. I know your supposed to work buck tails in close but I was casting FAR! To reach the outside of the weedline. On my second snap, I feel a hit, bring it in? Its my first bucktail jig pickerel!! I was soooo happy. What a gift on my b-day! And on top, it was in the slot limit!! Seems like he was really hungry and having a snack! As the excitement died off, I go to cast and the rod is snapped some how! I had to put the bucktail on another rod. This one with 8-10 kb test(the other had 12lbs I rigged for her).I'm working it and doesn't it snap off in the weeds? After that I tried every bucktail, dressed jig, maribou, I had for about an hour and nothing. I think they are wayyy to light and I think you need minimum 1/4 to have any luck. I even tried working a jig and grub aggressively like the bucktail but no luck.Gotta buy more big bucktails!!!! Anyways, had a great time. Didn't catch any musky but I mostly worked the bucktail. She caught 4 largies and 1 smallie and I caught a nice pickerel and countless largies on the bucktail.Seen some really mouth watering bass structure for bass season. The strange thing is when I go in the fall? I hardly ever see any bass(but I'm throwing big spinner baits all day). This time they were everywhere. Will give the jig and pig a go next time. Hope you enjoyed the report. Funny how as soon as opener hits, the musky disappear.lol I was fishing a few days before opener with fisherpete for pickerel. We nailed 4 pickerel and 1, 36 inch Musky(on a x-rap).I also had a 40+ inch musky follow me in(on a small crankbait) and another one took a swipe at a smallie I was bringing in. Didn't post the musky pic because it was caught OOS. I just received the whitefish I caught too. After only about 15 jigs we had to leave. I gotta get my own camera so I post the pictures on time. Edited June 9, 2010 by Johnny Bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehg Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Ripping bucktails along weedlines is something i have read about for decades. Never been successful at it, caught more weeds than walleye. You can get a decent point and shoot cameras, over 10 mega-pixels, for around 100 dollars these days. Similar cameras were a few hundred dollars a 4-5 yrs. ago. Continue the good fishing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuck Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I've got a buddy who used to fish tourneys years back and his fave technique for walleye was ripping a bucktail jig in the weeds. It's a lot of work but it produces. Good luck with the technique of the year. Mine is going to be slow trolling a worm harness around weedlines for walleye and mastering the art of the Suick for musky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexcba Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Ripping bucktails along weedlines is something i have read about for decades. Never been successful at it, caught more weeds than walleye. You can get a decent point and shoot cameras, over 10 mega-pixels, for around 100 dollars these days. Similar cameras were a few hundred dollars a 4-5 yrs. ago. Continue the good fishing! EHG it took me a while to perfect the rip jig on the kawartha lakes too lol. the best way to pick them up is a medium action rod, braided line, and a nice perch colored bucktail. what i do is cast into the weeds, and rip from the 9 to 12 position, when i say rip i mean HARD AND FAST (gf just got excited lol) anyways, tear the weeds apart if you have to they will strike. just keep an eye on your braided line. sometimes you'll lift for the next rip and the fish will be on most of the time however you'll see your line slightly tug when its slack. after a little bit of practice you'll be boating fish instead of swearing at them lol. btw johhny, thats a great lookin walleye, sorry for jackin your thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 when ripping the weeds works...it works well..love it I am glad I am not old...still like my rock and roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnsled Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Nice repot JB. As Terry said, when ripping the weeds works...it works well..love it I couldn't agree more. I've also had them hammering the bucktail one day and the next nothing. Throw out a grub and they'll hit that all day long. Go figure. Still liking my rock and roll as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehg Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 EHG it took me a while to perfect the rip jig on the kawartha lakes too lol. the best way to pick them up is a medium action rod, braided line, and a nice perch colored bucktail. when ripping the weeds works...it works well..love it I am glad I am not old...still like my rock and roll Maybe will try this rip jiggin method next time since it has been explained and others show confidence. Have the stuff just need the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskeybugged Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Tipping that BT with a worm helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Bass Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Thanks for asll the advice and words of encouragement. I mostly pound edges and sparse weeds but will try throwing it right into the weeds next. Looking forward to catching one on my own made bucktail now! Well looks like I might be working for a bit so I wont be putting up too many fishing reports! But It just means I will buy a better boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Urban Fisherman Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 Great report Johnny! I always say I'm going to try a new technique and stick to it, but always find myself drifting back to my old ways. One of these days I'm going to leave some tackle behind so I have no choice! hah Have a good one! Cheers, Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singingdog Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 A few things make ripping much easier: -thin diameter superline. -the right jighead. -the right weight Super thin braid, like 10lb PowerPro will cut through lots of weeds. The lack of stretch allows you to "snap" the jig off the weeds easier If the jig is too heavy, it will bury in the weeds too deep and make it difficult to rip. I like a jig that has just enough weight to just settle into the weeds, but doesn't plunge deep. The jighead is IMHO the most important factor. The upper jighead, with the line-tie right at the nose, is designed for ripping. When you pull on it, the jig is pulled nose-up through the weeds with very little snagging. The bottom jighead, with the line-tie on the top, levers nose-down into the weeds when you pull on it. The bottom jighead is great for open water and vertical jigging, but will snag way more when trying to rip. For ripping, a ball-head jig would work better than the bottom jig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 A few things make ripping much easier: -thin diameter superline. -the right jighead. -the right weight Super thin braid, like 10lb PowerPro will cut through lots of weeds. The lack of stretch allows you to "snap" the jig off the weeds easier If the jig is too heavy, it will bury in the weeds too deep and make it difficult to rip. I like a jig that has just enough weight to just settle into the weeds, but doesn't plunge deep. The jighead is IMHO the most important factor. The upper jighead, with the line-tie right at the nose, is designed for ripping. When you pull on it, the jig is pulled nose-up through the weeds with very little snagging. The bottom jighead, with the line-tie on the top, levers nose-down into the weeds when you pull on it. The bottom jighead is great for open water and vertical jigging, but will snag way more when trying to rip. For ripping, a ball-head jig would work better than the bottom jig. Excellent information, gives one a lot to think about and proves that little details do make a big difference! Thanks for the lesson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadadude Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 EHG it took me a while to perfect the rip jig on the kawartha lakes too lol. the best way to pick them up is a medium action rod, braided line, and a nice perch colored bucktail. what i do is cast into the weeds, and rip from the 9 to 12 position, when i say rip i mean HARD AND FAST (gf just got excited lol) anyways, tear the weeds apart if you have to they will strike. just keep an eye on your braided line. sometimes you'll lift for the next rip and the fish will be on most of the time however you'll see your line slightly tug when its slack. after a little bit of practice you'll be boating fish instead of swearing at them lol. btw johhny, thats a great lookin walleye, sorry for jackin your thread. Great info hear,thats how you do it,it's not a finess aproach at all.....noth'in like doing your next rip and a 3+lber is on the end,thats hard on wrist hahahahaha If your not getting them ripping,what I call plopping is the next best technique,this where I use a round head and a twister tail or double twister.For plopping you just drop your jig into pockets in the weed along the weedline works best for non-agressive eye's.One of the most important tools needed for both these types of fishing is a good pair of polarized sun glasses.IMO these are the most important thing for fishing weeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetofish Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 i like to switch it up between grubs and bucktails, somedays one works better then the other. We did really well in the fall on bucktails last year, landing some big eyes. rip jigging all the way. lovetofish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Bass Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 Thanks for all the very useful info! Grubs I have mastered. I need a new challenge and bucktails is it. The next step is I may switch to braided line. I use 6 lb mono now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishdawg Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 good info here.... thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 Johnny, get some braid. It makes a world of difference. I can't even use mono anymore, especially in weeds. Once you have the ripping figured out, take me out and show me how its done S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexcba Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 deffinetly get your self some braid. singingdog explained it perfect.. 0 stretch, and weed cutting ability. my rig isnt the best for it but i use a 20 pound braid (spiderwire) with a medium/fast action on a spinning reel. my jig head rarley comes back with weeds on it. great advice on the jig heads singingdog. i gotta pick up more of those inline eyelet ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob v Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 There's a great article in the May edition of Outdoor Canada on the subject of walleye in the weeds. It also includes some good info on rip jigging for walleye in the weeds and features some beautiful bucktails tied by big jim mclauglin that apparently are retailed in JB's Fishing Depot, and at Gagnon's in oshawa. I'm not trying to spam - just pass some info on that i came across recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvette1 Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 way to go johnny sounds like you two had a great time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCTFisher9120 Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Nice report. Love the whitefish, great job!! Thanks for sharing, MTBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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