charlied Posted December 16, 2009 Report Posted December 16, 2009 Just a reminder to keep your gifts and valuables out of view of thiefs! Saw a video in class about a Native theft ring going on at shopping malls around Hamilton and Oakville....they are hitting Toronto Malls as well. They are mostly just stealing the whole vehicle. But I am sure there are thieves out there just after xmas presents!! I don't have kids, but I would hate to see your kids go without xmas presents!! Merry Christmas everyone. Charlie
bigugli Posted December 16, 2009 Report Posted December 16, 2009 Happens every year. Been a serious problem at the Toronto malls for decades.
Radnine Posted December 16, 2009 Report Posted December 16, 2009 Just a reminder to keep your gifts and valuables out of view of thiefs! Saw a video in class about a Native theft ring going on at shopping malls around Hamilton and Oakville.... Are Native theft rings any different than any other type of theft ring? (read: do we need to indict one particular group of people?) Jim
Handlebarz Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 I was over in MI today at a meijer and saw a cop cruising the parking lot I asked if something was wrong he said no but they patrol like this every year due to high amounts of brake in's on cars he was still there when I came out this was in a small town in MI so I guess all other crime was solved
Fishnwire Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 Are Native theft rings any different than any other type of theft ring? (read: do we need to indict one particular group of people?)Jim That's what leaped out at me when I read the post too. Completely unnecessary to include that.
bucktail Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 I imagine the descripition of the perpetrators is for information sakes not a racial bash since nothing derogatory was said and the post was info only anyways. people need to stop automatically thinking people are racist, its as bad as being racist.
Ben_Daniels Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 I imagine the descripition of the perpetrators is for information sakes not a racial bash since nothing derogatory was said and the post was info only anyways. people need to stop automatically thinking people are racist, its as bad as being racist. I agree completely. Including information about the perpetrator(s) is critical. If there were people randomly attacking other people, especially fishermen I would want to know what they look like ect.People get so obsessed with being being politically correct that they forget the point of things. -Ben
BillM Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 That's what leaped out at me when I read the post too. Completely unnecessary to include that. Why's that? If they happen to be native and happen to be busting into cars in Hamilton then their race/colour/whatever should be included...
Fishnwire Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 Why's that? If they happen to be native and happen to be busting into cars in Hamilton then their race/colour/whatever should be included... I'm fairly certain that not one particular group is responsible for the overwhelming majority of instances, and it would be impossible to ever know for sure anyway....it would probably be good advice to be vigilant of any person acting suspiciously or in a position to rip you off, and not focus on anyone because they happen to be a particular minority. I'd be amazed if the authorities investigating this publicly described it as a "native theft ring." Giving the description, which might include race, of a particular individual or individuals who are known to or suspected to have committed a crime is one thing, but assuming every time a car gets hopped in a Hamilton mall, a native is probably behind it, is way over the top.
solopaddler Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 I'm fairly certain that not one particular group is responsible for the overwhelming majority of instances Unfortunately you're wrong.
muskymike Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 I'm fairly certain that not one particular group is responsible for the overwhelming majority of instances, and it would be impossible to ever know for sure anyway....it would probably be good advice to be vigilant of any person acting suspiciously or in a position to rip you off, and not focus on anyone because they happen to be a particular minority. I'd be amazed if the authorities investigating this publicly described it as a "native theft ring." Giving the description, which might include race, of a particular individual or individuals who are known to or suspected to have committed a crime is one thing, but assuming every time a car gets hopped in a Hamilton mall, a native is probably behind it, is way over the top. Actually his original post states that he watched a video in class about a "Native Theft Ring" therefore it is completely acceptable to state native. If it were a video of "Christmas Theft Ring" I am sure he would have put "Christmas" instead of "Holiday's Theft Ring". So would you be offended if he used Christmas instead of Holidays? He had every right to put it, and he shouldnt be questioned nor should he be criticized for it. MERRY CHRISTMAS
Ben_Daniels Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 but assuming every time a car gets hopped in a Hamilton mall, a native is probably behind it, is way over the top. I don't think anyones assuming that! But lets put it this way... someone's breaking into houses in your neighborhood, wouldn't you want to know the description of the people that have been doing the crimes? I'm sure you would. -Ben
blaque Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 i believe the correct response is.....THANKS for the heads up charlied. Ill be sure to keep my gifts in the trunk. Glad you were lookin out for us as i have a habit of rushing out to the car and throwing gifts in the front seat to go back in and finish shopping. Good reminder indeed Enjoy reading all the posts that have absolutely NOTHING to do with your original intent
smally21 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 the fact that 3 of my last 6 vehicles ended up as smoking hulks on the reserve, is, i'm sure, completely coincidental. hamilton has an awesome auto theft problem, at over 6000 vehicles a year as many as 1 in 20 car owners will have their vehicle taken EACH YEAR in the city of hamilton. living in the hamilton area i have been the victim of auto theft / break and enter more than 12 times. touchy subject for me obviously, once every couple of years getting the call from cayuga OPP telling me they have recovered my 'burnt out vehicle'. i'll probably get roasted for this one i'm sure......appreciate the heads up from charlie.
SylvanOwner Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) well said Blaque!! Edited December 17, 2009 by SylvanOwner
solopaddler Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 the fact that 3 of my last 6 vehicles ended up as smoking hulks on the reserve, is, i'm sure, completely coincidental. hamilton has an awesome auto theft problem, at over 6000 vehicles a year as many as 1 in 20 car owners will have their vehicle taken EACH YEAR in the city of hamilton. living in the hamilton area i have been the victim of auto theft / break and enter more than 12 times. touchy subject for me obviously, once every couple of years getting the call from cayuga OPP telling me they have recovered my 'burnt out vehicle'. i'll probably get roasted for this one i'm sure......appreciate the heads up from charlie. The car theft ring is rampant in our area, that's a fact. Both my dad and a friend had their trucks stolen out of Costco parking lots. Both vehicles were recovered stripped and trashed on the res. We had an elightening conversation with one of the investigating officers. It's been a problem locally for a long, long time. I believe the officers do their best, but in many ways their hands are tied. Sorry to hear you were targetted 3 times, that's crazy!
bigfish1965 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 If it is all kept to supported facts, it is not racist. Making comments about that group in an opine would be. Tough rope to walk sometimes, isn't it?
lookinforwalleye Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 Not that I am near Hamilton often but thanks for the heads up, it sounds like the good folk of the area are well aware of the problem.
basskicker09 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 my father just leaves dead smelt in the van to deter theives from breaking into our van lol thanks for the heads up and i think youi didnt post anything wrong you dint say the I word lol
anonymous Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 I'm fairly certain that not one particular group is responsible for the overwhelming majority of instances, and it would be impossible to ever know for sure anyway....it would probably be good advice to be vigilant of any person acting suspiciously or in a position to rip you off, and not focus on anyone because they happen to be a particular minority. I'd be amazed if the authorities investigating this publicly described it as a "native theft ring." Giving the description, which might include race, of a particular individual or individuals who are known to or suspected to have committed a crime is one thing, but assuming every time a car gets hopped in a Hamilton mall, a native is probably behind it, is way over the top. You're not from around here. Down here it really is one group who are responsible for most auto theft as well as mall B&E's. You don't read the newspapers where everytime a stolen car is being chased the chased gets called off just before ohsweken, or the captured suspect is from the brantford area (see six nations reserve). Anyone who follows the news from this area knows the truth.
Terry Posted December 17, 2009 Report Posted December 17, 2009 to whom ever removed my picture are you tell me you found that in any way offensive and not funny as it was meant give me a break...we are getting stupid around here
Spiel Posted December 18, 2009 Report Posted December 18, 2009 to whom ever removed my picture are you tell me you found that in any way offensive and not funny as it was meant What may seem funny to you may be extremely inflammatory to others. You are of course familair with this quote from the rules.... Deleted or locked posts. If you disagree with a moderators decision to lock or delete a post, send them a Personal Message. DO NOT make a post complaining about it. give me a break...we are getting stupid around here So it would seem. Winternet is upon us!
irishfield Posted December 18, 2009 Report Posted December 18, 2009 (edited) I had an inflamation once.... Edited December 18, 2009 by irishfield
Spiel Posted December 18, 2009 Report Posted December 18, 2009 I had an inflamation once.... Did they tie it off with one of those teeny weeny elastics Wayne.
Terry Posted December 18, 2009 Report Posted December 18, 2009 I didn't complain I said things are getting stupid and the point was it was stupid to say they were native the only way someone could tell would be it they were dressed it full dress and on horse back...... I found the thread more inflammatory, then my knock about it
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