Bernie Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Some of you may have seen the post I made back in the summer of the cedar boat I am fixing up this winter. I mentioned at that time I was looking for the same year engine as the boat. There were a few old motors that have been collecting dust for as long as I can remember upstairs at the boat shop. Saturday afternoon I went and literally dusted them off and found this Johnson QD-10. Someone gave it an awful paint job at some point in time. Before spending a lot of time restoring this one I decided to see if it would run first. Took the hood off and noticed that the coating on the ignition coils had somehow run off over the years and left goo all over it. There were no spark plugs in the cylinder head and that concerned me as it may have been full of bugs and dirt inside. There was this much dust under the hood, you should have seen the outside. I knew the first thing I needed was spark, so I started there. Now this little engine was made in Peterborough in 1949 so you can imagine there are not too many parts available for these. These are the old coils. Improvising can be a necessity so that's what I did. The coils were bad, but I had heard that taking the coil off of a much newer model and combining it with the old coil metal laminate it could be made to work. It did . Cleaned up the old breaker points, replaced a condenser and spark was fixed. Now the fuel system is a concern because carburator parts dry out and crack, and are often specialized pieces. I took the chance and did not disassemble it at this time. Cleaned out the old glass filter and blew out the fuel lines. Drained out the old gear lube (it was still clear) and refilled it. Well sometime this morning (lost track of time, was having fun ) I dropped it into the test tank, hit the primer a few times and gave it a pull. One pull, awesome...... It didn't pump water too well but it did enough to run it for a while. Went looking in the parts room for a water pump and found one. It is the same as a mid 60's 10 HP. Put it in and it pumps well now. I decided to restore this one, it may take a while to make it look good again. Original paint colours and decals are available on a website I found. Peeled some paint off today, looks a little better now. Next is to tear it apart and go over it more thorough, and repaint as i go.
Bernie Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Posted December 7, 2009 Thank you for the reply Kickingfrog. This is what they are supposed to look like when done.
Sinker Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Nice job Bernie. That's going to be a great little rig!! S.
Leecher Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Awesome Bernie Seems to be running OK from the video you showed..... shouldn't take you to long to restore it It'll make a nice addition to the cedar boat Keep us posted on the development. Leechman
lew Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Always nice to see those old motors restored to their former glory Bernie and it'd be great to see it again when your done. Lotsa fond memories of the old Seahorses
Fish4Eyes Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Good work , nothing like bringing something back to life yourself. Be sure to post pics when your done painting.
aplumma Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Keep going Bernie it looks like a great winter project. Art
camillj Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Great stuff ... I too love those sea horses ... Looks like you are already well on your way !
Bernie Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Posted December 7, 2009 Thanks guys. I would prefer a late 50's engine as they are probably some of the best little outboards ever made, but I am going to try to get this one tip-top.
Roy Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Beauty job Bernie. The only thing to make that motor look better would be for it to be sitting on a Giesler boat.
Bernie Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Posted December 7, 2009 That is the plan Roy. I also am in the process of restoring a 16 ft cedar from around 1948- 1952. I had it in the water this past fall. It's in the shop drying out now.
SBCregal Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 i want to do something like that with my older (but not as old as that one) johnson that i have, its a 9.5hp from the mid 60s iirc i just have no idea where to start looking for parts for it. it runs, but it probably needs a water pump. and the lower unit needs to be resealed...needs some paint too any idea where to find parts for something like that???
Sinker Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 That boat is going to look beautiful with that engine on it when your done with it Bernie!!! You gotta get rid of the plastic seats though......all original, or nothing!!! S.
basskicker09 Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 very nice boat and motor there is an older man in the niagara area that fishes for cats in jordan harbour and he has a 1940's boat with matching motor they always look great to see when done right
Bernie Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Posted December 8, 2009 i want to do something like that with my older (but not as old as that one) johnson that i have, its a 9.5hp from the mid 60s iirc i just have no idea where to start looking for parts for it. it runs, but it probably needs a water pump. and the lower unit needs to be resealed...needs some paint too any idea where to find parts for something like that??? Dunner, the most common parts for those engines are still available. Your local marine supplier should be able to get you most of those parts. If you can't find them let me know, I can get them for you and we have several of those 9.5 in the derelict pile for parts. Sinker, yes those seats will have to go. This project is being done in the memory of my Grandfather who was still around in 1949, he passed away in 1950. Never met him but the stories that I have been told I sure wish I had.
Spiel Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 The boat and motor restoration are pretty slick and admirable projects Bernie. I've no doubt you'll ace them.
bubbles Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 Impressive project, keep up the great work and keep us posted. I love this stuff!
Headhunter Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 Nice Bernie! That will be the envy of the bay when it's all done and lookin new! The only question is, will it reach Cormorant speed? LOL HH
Bernie Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Posted December 8, 2009 Nice Bernie! That will be the envy of the bay when it's all done and lookin new!The only question is, will it reach Cormorant speed? LOL HH I'm going to hide a nitrous-oxide kit under the seat for those acceleration runs.
Headhunter Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 A 410 mounted on the bow might be an easier solution! LOL HH
Headhunter Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 .... that or a "beak" seeking missle! HH
Bernie Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Posted December 8, 2009 The boat and motor restoration are pretty slick and admirable projects Bernie. I've no doubt you'll ace them. Now you are raising the bar a notch Chris. I would be happy for you to come and try it out next summer.
Spiel Posted December 9, 2009 Report Posted December 9, 2009 Now you are raising the bar a notch Chris. I would be happy for you to come and try it out next summer. Hey now we're talking. I'd like to make that happen too Bernie.
Bernie Posted February 5, 2010 Author Report Posted February 5, 2010 Here is an update on the motor project. Well after a couple of paint ripples and masking tape problems this week I finally started to put on a couple of decals. Few more parts and pieces to put on but it is nearing completion. Here's a look so far. There is another outboard project going on in the shop. This one is being done by Jim, who is planning on taking this one to the Gravenhurst Antique Boat Show this summer. It's a 1958 7 1/2 Johnson. This one is going to be a beauty. I love those engines.
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