theRJ Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Hey everyone long time no speak. Well after many years I have come to a point where I have to question my choice of line on my spinning outfit. (currently P-line fluoroclear) I was fishing smallies on my buddies lake this fall and the spool memory was making my life miserable since we were fishing in 20+ water. Will the lack of memory in PP/braid eliminate a good chunk of the line twist? I usually have to pull a section of line every other trip and either untwist it (drag it without a lure behind an idling boat) or cut out a section that has gone birdsnesty on me. Thanks RJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglyfish Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 yea, u will end that issue with braid, i would however go with spiderwire. couple bucks more, but a far better braid. i have used both and found spiderwire to be stronger and more smooth to use, and the green dye comes off the PP the first time it gets wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reelpro Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 There's a lot of aspects to look at with braid vs mono. I have found with a lot of experimenting that, you need to really match the reel you have and rod you have to a specific braid and lb test. Smaller diameter will birds nest easier than heavier lb test braid, but it also has less memory. I only use braid with an equivalent dia. of about 6 lb or 8LB mono, then use a flourocarbon leader. Smaller dia causes too many "wind tangles". I like spider wire for spinning and Power pro for heavier baitcast rigs. Again I prefer mono Berkley XL - extra limp- for small dia spinning rigs. 6 or 8 lb for Smallies and Walleye. I will only use braid for very deep applications or very heavy cover, brush and weeds. I also find the braid works better with a fiberglass rod, and mono with higher quality graphite rods. If you get a really badly twisted line just take it for a quick troll with nothing on the end of the line. Let out half the spool with nothing tied on, and troll it as fast as you can, the water drag will pull the twist right out in a couple hundred yards. GL MIKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLofchik Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Braid will help reduce the twist to almost nothing, but the biggest difference you'll notice is the feel. Especially fishing in 20' of water. And go with Tuf-Line. It's the exact same Spectra braid as PP, only 1/3 cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAsin Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 yea, u will end that issue with braid, i would however go with spiderwire. couple bucks more, but a far better braid. i have used both and found spiderwire to be stronger and more smooth to use, and the green dye comes off the PP the first time it gets wet. Yellow box spiderwire, XXX stealth i believe its called stuff is amazing dont get me wrong i do use PP but am a bigger fan of thw spiderwire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Years ago I used braided nylon or dacron on a large spinning reel, never tried any of the new braids on one. Dacron and nylon had a different feel coming off the spool, not like mono. Don`t reel against the drag, if the fish wants to take the drag let him, just keep pressure on and slack out of the line. Reeling against the drag can cause line twist. I don`t use the drag often so no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skeeter99 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 yea, u will end that issue with braid, i would however go with spiderwire. couple bucks more, but a far better braid. i have used both and found spiderwire to be stronger and more smooth to use, and the green dye comes off the PP the first time it gets wet. spiderwire is not as nice and smooth casting and will cut more into your spool more than power pro spidewire is flat power pro is round like mono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singingdog Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 PowerPro works great on spinning reels. I have a couple of reel with 4 yr old Power Pro on them, still going strong. IMHO pure flouro and spinning reels are not a good mix: too stiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I tried Power Pro for the last little bit of the 08 season, and was surprised by how curly it came off the reel. Looked like a 20' pigtail sitting up on top of the surface. Constant knots, worse than when I was just learning to cast on mono. Dunno if I got a bad spool of PP, or what - but I've gone back to Rapala Titanium. The coating may rub off a bit, but it lays out flat for me and doesn't tie itself in knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt bruce Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 If you close the bail by hand instead of turning the reel handle line twist will not be a problem unless you reel in agaist the drag as said before, closeing the bail with the handle of the reel twists the line . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Braid has a tendency to slip on the spool.. Adding a bit of mono backing will prevent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirk Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 (edited) Around here there is really no reason to fish anything but braid on spinning,just tape it to the spool or use backing to prevent slipping.Fish a mon/flouro leader if your concerned about visability.You will eliminate twist by fishing braid due to it not having memory and its super sensitive.One thing I look for is a fine weave with braid for spinning,I find Super Stren braid casts well due to this but just about any braid will be a huge step up compared to mono/flouro. Ps. you may not like braid for topwater becuase it will hang hooks and if you fish cranks you may prefer flouro because it sinks were as braid has more resistence in water. Edited February 13, 2009 by hirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverowbotham Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I really dislike Spiderwire ... I have broken 50lbs spiderwire on hooksets many times. I am a tried and true fan of power pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I used Power Pro for the first time last year (on a friends outfit) bottom bouncing for Kenai River Rainbows and Dollies and have to say it worked incredibly well. So well in fact that I will be running it on my bottom bouncing rod this year. I am currently waiting for my order to arrive so I can spool up. It is so much more sensitive than mono in this situation I caught many more fish. I have been using Spiderwire on my walleye jigging rods for several years and it has really increased my hooking %. I'm hooking fish with it that I would never even know were there with mono. I always run a flouro or mono leader as the braids get beat up quickly in the rocks, especially when trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRJ Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Thanks for the input everyone. I think braid seems to be a good option by general consensus. I like PP just because I use it on my baitcast setup and I have not been given any reason to hate it. I appreciate your thoughts on other options but I'll stick with what has worked great for me. Thanks RJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry2Rs Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 (edited) I have used all the brands of superline mentioned and a few others. Until now I was a Tuff-Line/Power Pro fan, but this year I bought the new Fireline Tracer and really like the feel and the visibility. The smallest diameter I have found is 15 pound = 4 pound mono and I am using it on my spinning rods. This is an 8 strand braid, so it should be even rounder that the 4 strand T-L & PP lines. If your PP is full of curls, I suspect that you put it on backwards. Just like mono & fluoro lines, superline needs to be wound on so that it is coming off the bulk spool in the same direction as the bail is turning. Superlines do eventually get twisted, but because they are not a single strand, they absorb the line twist for a long time before showing it. Dragging them behind the boat like you would mono, will straighten them out, this will also work on Teenagers ... wink. Three tips for spinning reels with any line are: Don't over fill the spool. Close the bail by hand. Place the line on the roller of the bail by hand. Edited February 13, 2009 by garry2rs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeds Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I really dislike Spiderwire ... I have broken 50lbs spiderwire on hooksets many times. I am a tried and true fan of power pro That's crazy. Hookseting what? On what kind of rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I have used a few types and I'm sticking with Spiderwire. It's on all my reel from spinning to baitcast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thgen Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 If you close the bail by hand instead of turning the reel handle line twist will not be a problem unless you reel in agaist the drag as said before, closeing the bail with the handle of the reel twists the line . . I don't understand your reasoning. Regardless of whether the bail closes mechanically or manually, I don't see how it can twist your line. I find Power Pro to be a very good line. I used to use Fireline alot of the time but after losing two decent musky to breakoffs in half an hour, I switched and have been happy since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry2Rs Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I don't know about line twist, but I recommend always closing the bail by hand and pulling the line into the roller bearing. That way you keep the line tight on the spool and avoid loops jumping off. It also prevents those line-wound-on-the-front-of-the-spool screw-ups, that happen when the bale doesn't quite close or the line rides just off the roller for a couple of turns. On the other hand feel free to do it anyway you like, there are no laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverowbotham Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 That's crazy. Hookseting what? On what kind of rod? My dunkin rod. Its a 7'6 H St. Coix. Setting the hook on fish with a jig. Had no problems with power pro though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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