bow slayer Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 okay getting a new reel for fathers day....now the choice ....I have found a stradic 2500 CI4 for 245 taxes in out the door or a stradic 2500 FJ 170 out the door. At first I was thinking CI4 but for the extra 80 bucks is it worth it? What would you do,both prices are excellent prices for brand new reels. They also have some brand new stradic 1000 HI on for 123,99 plus taxes. your thoughts please.....can't decide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 i loved my stradic CI4, till lake simcoe ate it some day i will buy another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 if you are a "light gear" nut, someone who has to have the lightest gear possible, the Ci4 would be the way to go. otherwise, i'd save the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 when the Ci4 first came out I got one and a got an FJ. I sold the Ci4 before I even spooled it with line and paired it to a rod only because I didn't like the stock handle that was on it. Both are nice reels but I would have had to spend more to change the handle to one I like. Go play with both then decide. I spent the cash to play with both and I was lucky to make my cash back on the one I didn't like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bow slayer Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 hard part is I went in thinking of getting the CI4 then I seen the FJ marked down 279. I played with both,the CI4 is definately lighter,but both feel great. I guess I am trying to justify spending the extra cash when I really don't have too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 what are you planning on using it for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bow slayer Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 walleye tossing jigs, body baits with 20lb braid or nano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaspumper Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 They are both excellent reels, what one person likes and what another person likes may be different then what you like,your the one who should be deciding, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 take one of each and pair it to the rod you have set aside for this reel and see how they feel together and then return the other? Or keep is as an early or late b-day gift... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) You really don't need a ci4, the regular stradic is fine, even the 123.99 one would be great for a 1000 series reel. Very hard to justify a ci4 when they cost so much. Now that I said that, I have two 1000 ci4 stradics and I love em, and if I had the cash laying around I'd buy another if I needed a new reel. Very light reels and I find them pretty smooth. If the reel is for Wally's, definitely go for the 1000 size. That should muddy the water. Edited June 18, 2016 by porkpie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUMP KNOWS Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 stradic 2500 FJ 170 out the door is a good price. Do they have more then one in stock? I would like to purchase if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 I've got stradics going back to the early 90's. Love them all and have a c14 that is nice and light but straight up I'd take the extra money saved and put it toward other tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 I concur with porkpie - the 1000 size would be more appropriate for walleye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adempsey Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Get the CI4. You want it and will always second guess yourself even if you don't need. Otherwise, you wouldn't have even posted this ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 tone z71 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I've got one the C14 and after my wife used my rod one afternoon ..now she's got one too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankTheRabbit Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) My dad has a Stradic 2000FG that he bought from new, which influenced my decision to get a new Stradic FJ and I've never had any complaints. Great reel and the handle turns effortlessly. I've never caught any monster fish with the reel. Tried salmon with 20lb braid, but I quickly saw the backing when it ran off into Lake O, but still felt fine afterwards. A little on the heavy side, but it'll depend on what rod and application you'll match it with. Any light weight rod (around 4oz) felt like a better match up with a Ci4, at least to me. I tried matching a 803s GLX with the 2500 FJ and it felt too heavy. I paired it with a friend's Ci4 and immediately wanted one. Lol. Edited June 19, 2016 by FrankTheRabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauce Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 If you are planning to pair the reel with a rod that's tip heavy then FJ for sure. I found it hard to find rods that balance with a CI4. Personal preference... I have 5 FJ's and 3 CI4's. Great reels. Worth the money. And if you can get one for a big discount, that's the one to buy. You won't be disappointed with an FJ on any rod. A CI4 should go on something extremely light to get the max benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I have the CI4+ and TBH, if you're willing to spend $250, the newer Stradic FK is a much, much better reel in every regard except for weight (I also own the FK). The CI4 is as light of a reel you're going to get, however I was hugely disappointed with the drag when it came to fighting larger fish (Like Steelhead and lakers - Can't imagine what salmon off the pier would do). The drag on my CI4+ pulses when bigger fish are running - Even sent it in to be checked out and cleaned with no real difference when I got it back. I spoke to a few tackle shop owners and salespeople and they have heard a good number of similar complaints. Apparently the rigidity/stiffness (or lack thereof) with the CI4 material is to blame (even with their newer X-Ship technology). The Stradic FK is my new favourite reel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 The Stradic FK is my new favourite reel. Oh great, now I feel like going out and spoiling myself for father's day and I don't even need any new toy's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lape0019 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 So is the Ci4 really a ci4+ or the older Ci4 that had the round porting on the spool? The FJ is an older reel as well. I've had 2 CI4 reels (the original) and would buy another in a heartbeat. I sold one and kept one but I'll probably be buying another shortly. With a month before Icast, I would honestly wait and see what is going to be released, Japan to released a new Stradic Ci4 which would lead me to beleive there will be some deals coming up here for the ci4+ and a new version being released at icast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bow slayer Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I decided to save the 80 bucks, just got home with the FJ, 172 out the door. I did notice when I was there they have a FJ 1000 for 134.99. If anyone is looking for FJ 1000 at a great price I will direct you to the retailer. They also have a CI4 2500 for 240 out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) enjoy and I'm sure you will!!! Send the retailer info off to PUMP KNOWS (I think it was him) looking for an FJ as well as I'm sure he'd be thankful for the info. *edit to fix name to PUMP KNOWS* Edited June 19, 2016 by GBW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musky_hunter Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 I have 2 FK and 2 CI4+ if you don;t need the weight savings get the FK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 I have the CI4+ and TBH, if you're willing to spend $250, the newer Stradic FK is a much, much better reel in every The CI4 is as light of a reel you're going to get, however I was hugely disappointed with the drag when it came to fighting larger fish (Like Steelhead and lakers - Can't imagine what salmon off the pier would do). The drag on my CI4+ pulses when bigger fish are running - Even sent it in to be checked out and cleaned with no real difference when I got it back. I spoke to a few tackle shop owners and salespeople and they have heard a good number of similar complaints. Apparently the rigidity/stiffness (or lack thereof) with the CI4 material is to blame (even with their newer X-Ship technology). The Stradic FK is my new favourite reel. Darn not what I wanted to hear about the new CI4 reels. I got three of them I guess that I will have to shop for a metal body reel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Depends on what you want to do with the reels. If you're drop shotting, vertical jigging or dragging tubes for bass or walleye, it's a great reel for that. According to just about every sales guy and occasional Shimano rep I spoke to, the CI4+ was designed to be a finesse reel and that's what it feels and performs like. If I was fishing for fast running, hard-fighting fish like salmon, steelhead, carp or big lakers through the ice, I would definitely look at other reels. I used my FK all winter on lakers and all spring on Steelhead down in the lower Niagara. I'm itching to try it out on salmon off the pier later this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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