Hedfish Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 I am looking for a group 24 battery for my kayak. AGM I think. Which brands/stores do you guys recommend? I seem to remember some bad stuff was said about the Canadian Tire batteries but maybe I am just imagining things.
BillM Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 Costco has a great return policy. I think a few guys here run the Kirkland batteries.
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 I have nothing bad to say about the CT batteries. I run them on my boat. However if you have the $$$$ a LiOn battery would be the way to go. Much lighter but a lot more $$$. http://www.lithiumion-batteries.com/lithium-marine-batteries.php
Hedfish Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Posted May 12, 2016 I have nothing bad to say about the CT batteries. I run them on my boat. However if you have the $$$$ a LiOn battery would be the way to go. Much lighter but a lot more $$$. http://www.lithiumion-batteries.com/lithium-marine-batteries.php Wow! Half the weight for quadruple the price! Certainly looks like a nice battery but my wife will most likely burn my kayak if I buy a battery like that!
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 Wow! Half the weight for quadruple the price! Certainly looks like a nice battery but my wife will most likely burn my kayak if I buy a battery like that! I said they weren't cheap!!!
KraTToR Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 There are only a few different battery manufacturers, they just re-brand them. I've used deep cylces from Costco, Walmart, and C-Tire and if you take care of them, they are all pretty good. AGMs are nice because they are sealed and you don't need to check electrolyte levels. AGMs also come in 2 versions, Standard and Pure Lead. The pure lead versions supposed to last 2x longer than standard AGMs. Standard AGMs supposed to last 2x as long as flooded. According to the marketing material.. For my TM, I'm using 2 grp 29 EverStart Maxx (Walmart's top of the line flooded marine) and they really last and have gobs of power. I can't recall exactly but I think they were under $150 each.
Sinker Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 I just got a new magna charge 31 series deep cycle. Its my second one like it. The other one has 4 seasons on it and still works good, but it doesnt have juice like it onxe did. I generally run my batteries until they are almost dead. I do a lot of slow trolling eyes, so my batteries dont last as long as most peoples, but i have had other batts that didnt make 4 seasons.. All uou can do is charge them after each use with a quality charger and replace when needed. I cant justify the price of an agm battery when i know i am going to kill it just as fast as a flooded cell. S.
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 If you routinely draw your batteries below 50% charge you will kill them much faster than if you don't. I also use my TM for slow trolling when jigging up lakers in calm conditions. It's hard on batteries.
knightfisher Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Costco 27 series deep cycle works great. Also upgraded to minn kota maximizer and have, as stated 5 times the battery life.
Old Ironmaker Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 I have learned Johnson Controls manufacture 85% of all batteries sold here. Each battery has a maximum number of charges to full from below 20%, thus the difference in prices from cheap to expensive. Like Dave said don't let the battery go below 50%.
boombap Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) I have learned Johnson Controls manufacture 85% of all batteries sold here. Each battery has a maximum number of charges to full from below 20%, thus the difference in prices from cheap to expensive. Like Dave said don't let the battery go below 50%. This is why I have two 27 series and alternate between the two. Edit: just realized this post is about a kayak.. my bad. Edited May 13, 2016 by hsousa
Sinker Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 This is why I have two 27 series and alternate between the two. Edit: just realized this post is about a kayak.. my bad. You would be better to hook them together and run them as one bank.
boombap Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 You would be better to hook them together and run them as one bank. I get on average 6 hours out of one.. what are the benefits to hooking them up parallel? 12v 50# minnkota powerdrive v2
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 I get on average 6 hours out of one.. what are the benefits to hooking them up parallel? 12v 50# minnkota powerdrive v2 The biggest advantage is you will be able to run all day without drawing them down below that magical 50% threshold, thus extending the overall life of your batteries.
boombap Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 The biggest advantage is you will be able to run all day without drawing them down below that magical 50% threshold, thus extending the overall life of your batteries. I get that, but have always heard that you shouldn't mix 2 different batteries. One of them is a couple of months older than the other. One is a costco brand the other a Mercury brand.
porkpie Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 I run mine to the ground often. They don't last more than 3-4 years tops. I killed a Kirkland in 3 seasons, but I run em until the motor stops. It's all the slow trolling. I just put a walmart GR31 up front, I doubt it will make it past 4 years. I could probably do better, but sometimes I come in real late and forget to charge for a few days etc. I just resigned myself to buying a new one every few years. I've had em all, from costco to Canadian tire. If you beat on em their all the same!
Hedfish Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Posted May 13, 2016 So where do you guys buy your batteries? I heard CT, Costco, Walmart. Any other stores? Do Bass Pro and Sail sell them? AGM batteries in particular (I am thinking about AGM to avoid the risk of acid spillage associated with the "regular" flooded batteries). Yep, it's for my kayak.
boombap Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 So where do you guys buy your batteries? I heard CT, Costco, Walmart. Any other stores? Do Bass Pro and Sail sell them? AGM batteries in particular (I am thinking about AGM to avoid the risk of acid spillage associated with the "regular" flooded batteries). Yep, it's for my kayak. Save your money and don't buy the Bass Pro Shops brand batteries. Costco 27 deep cycle = $100 BPS 27 deep cycle (non agm) = almost $200
Sinker Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) I run mine to the ground often. They don't last more than 3-4 years tops. I killed a Kirkland in 3 seasons, but I run em until the motor stops. It's all the slow trolling. I just put a walmart GR31 up front, I doubt it will make it past 4 years. I could probably do better, but sometimes I come in real late and forget to charge for a few days etc. I just resigned myself to buying a new one every few years. I've had em all, from costco to Canadian tire. If you beat on em their all the same!Yes, this ^ If your just positioning your boat to cast or work shorlines etc....a battery will last a long time. Im willing to bet that the guys who say they are getting more than 5 years out of a battery have never run them down, and don't fish nearly as much as I do, because I have been burning up batteries for a long time, and there is no way to make them last longer than what they do, the way I use them. Running them flat every time kills them, period. I get mine from my local battery shop. Kawartha Battery in Peterborough. I don't even care to shop around for a price, because its a small family run business, and, well, they are just great people, so I prefer to support them rather than some CEO of costco.....just my choice. I paid $175 all in for a 31 series deep cycle. S. Edited May 13, 2016 by Sinker
ecmilley Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 This topic comes.up all the time. My choice is battery's made by east Penn battery. Trade names die hard. Powersurge deka carquest. Just changed out my dp27 cranking battery lasted 10 years As for the deep cycles 27 series in my boat trolling motor goes all day burned.out a motorguide and 2 Minn kot as before requiring.new battery's. Purchased dp27 in 2007 replaced.in 2015
porkpie Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 $175 is a pretty good price for that size batt. No good battery shops near me, so my choices are walmart, CT or Costco, all depending how far I want to drive.
Sinker Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 The ones ive been using are magnacharge. The guy at the shop tells me they are the same as kirkland with a different label.
wormdunker Posted May 14, 2016 Report Posted May 14, 2016 My buddy recently bought a new Interstate battery at Advantage Trailer on Clifford st. in Smithville. (Niagara area). $94.00 for the same Interstate I have. I paid $165.00 at CTC. Also trailer parts & accessories his prices can't be beat. 5:30 - 12 trailer tire & rim $50.00. The same tire/rim at CTC $72.00 when they are on sale! Spare hub including races, bearings & grease seal $18.00.
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