misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Im doing the home made bacon thing. I cant find the pink cure salt. Do I really need it? Heard good bad, yaw and naw. I have fine sea salt,smoke peperika and lots of fresh course gropund pepper. Am I good to go with just that ? Stuff it in a zip lock, store for 5 days in fridge, turning each day. Do I need that nitrite stuff??????????? Edited January 16, 2016 by Brian B
Fisherman Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 No you don't, check the link here for the list of ingredients and how to: http://www.smallfootprintfamily.com/how-to-cure-bacon
misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 So Im good to go then Enrich with what I have. Thanks bud.
misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 Yes the salt will do the cure. I know I read about that some where, and like I said, have read that the pink salt, is not very good for you. Im not making big batches here. This is my first try. Posting in the food thread. I just needed a quick answer. Thanks again for quick replies
misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 Fine Sea salt is what I used. As long as the bag is sealed and refrigerated, I should be good to go. I watched a few vids of chefs and butchers , not all use the pink salt. One was just sea salt and brown sugar.
Consigliere Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 When served the bacon will need to be fully cooked to be safe if you are making it without pink salt. The nitrates will insure no health issues by eating it less than well done. There is more risk however much is hard to say. The nitrates being bad for you is debatable and all store bought bacon will use it.
misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) When served the bacon will need to be fully cooked to be safe if you are making it without pink salt. The nitrates will insure no health issues by eating it less than well done. There is more risk however much is hard to say. The nitrates being bad for you is debatable and all store bought bacon will use it. My plan is to fully cure,cook and fry cook. Can anyone tell me where I can buy this nitrate ? I went to three different stores that I was sure would have it. They use the nitrate due to laws supplying the public consumer? Edited January 10, 2016 by Brian B
leaf4 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Dunno if its the same stuff, but I use Himalayan rock salt, which is pink. I got a bag of it from winners of all places
mr blizzard Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Brian 1/3 cup coarse salt Same amount of maple syrup and same amount brown sugar Put above and bacon in zip lock 1 week in fridge Turn twice daily Then remove rinse thoroughly Back in fridge 4 hours Smoke to your liking. Tried 1 1/2 hours Found little to strong Next batch did for 40 minutes much better Then put back in fridge for one hour to firm up Slice fry up enjoy?
misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 Dunno if its the same stuff, but I use Himalayan rock salt, which is pink. I got a bag of it from winners of all places I seen that stuff at the bulk barn today. I was wondering if it was the same.
misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 Brian 1/3 cup coarse salt Same amount of maple syrup and same amount brown sugar Put above and bacon in zip lock 1 week in fridge Turn twice daily Then remove rinse thoroughly Back in fridge 4 hours Smoke to your liking. Tried 1 1/2 hours Found little to strong Next batch did for 40 minutes much better Then put back in fridge for one hour to firm up Slice fry up enjoy Thanks John.
mr blizzard Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Brian I got the recipe from Big Cliff. no nitrates, did it in True North smoker with maple chips, BUT I DID NOT HAVE THE ELEMET ON I BLEW SMOKE IN FROM AN OUTSIDE CHAMBER<<<COLD SMOKED then fried it up at the end, bought a meat slicer to make uniform strips
HTHM Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Brian 1/3 cup coarse salt Same amount of maple syrup and same amount brown sugar Put above and bacon in zip lock 1 week in fridge Turn twice daily Then remove rinse thoroughly Back in fridge 4 hours Smoke to your liking. Tried 1 1/2 hours Found little to strong Next batch did for 40 minutes much better Then put back in fridge for one hour to firm up Slice fry up enjoy What this says, but smoke until center temp is 150 fahrenheit I also add some rye of my choice, JD or CC. You can also do it in a brine, I use a camping cooler for that. real simple curing brine: for every 1 gallon of water, add: 1/3 - 1 cup sea salt (depending if you're on a lo-salt diet) 1 cup granulated sugar or Splenda® 1 cup brown sugar or Splenda® brown sugar mix 1 tbsp cure no. 1 pink salt stir thoroughly until clear amber color, pour over meat, inject if necessary to cure from inside-out as well as outside-in weight down with a partially filled 1 qt or 1 gal. ziploc bag or bags to keep meat immersed Curing times vary with meat, but generally overnight to 2-3 days for chickens and turkeys, 8-10 days buckboard bacon, 10-14 days belly bacon, pork shoulder, whole butts, 3-4 weeks whole hams, 10-20 days corned beef (fresh beef roasts, briskets, rolled rib roasts, etc.) If whole muscle is more than 2" thick, then inject so it can cure i/o as well as o/i, and/or in and around bone structures, etc. You can add any other flavorings you'd like, this is just the basic curing brine. 1 heaping tablespoon of cure is about 1 ounce. The maximum concentration allowed safely is 3.84 ounces per 1 gallon of brine (24 lbs.per 100 gallons: 16 oz. x 24 = 384 ounces, 1/100th is 3.84 ounces). You can experiment with different concentrations as long as you keep it between those parameters:
Consigliere Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Curing with plain salt is not the same as pink salt which is also called cure 1. Look up the differences and make your own choices based on what you know on how you will eat the bacon and what your comfortable with. I ordered my pink salt from the Internet. It is not Himalayan salt. It is salt with a component of nitrate 7.5 % I think.
misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 Plain salt ( table salt ) is not the same as sea salt. I was aware not to use normal table salt. I have been looking at other ways of curing and I have to say, 30% use the nitrate. 70% use just sea salt and what ever they chose for flavor.
wormdunker Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Good info here guys. Now you make me to want to try 1 of the above recipes. How big is the slab of bacon are you using? I have a wood fired smoker - rather old school lottsa firewood & various flavors of wood chips. I can also get all the fruitwood I want. The apple, peach, cherry & pear orchards are close by. Is it critical to bring the slab to 150 F? Comments are welcome as always.
misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 Good info here guys. Now you make me to want to try 1 of the above recipes. How big is the slab of bacon are you using? I have a wood fired smoker - rather old school lottsa firewood & various flavors of wood chips. I can also get all the fruitwood I want. The apple, peach, cherry & pear orchards are close by. Is it critical to bring the slab to 150 F? Comments are welcome as always. 10"x16"x 2" thick.
Big Cliff Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Brian 1/3 cup coarse salt Same amount of maple syrup and same amount brown sugar Put above and bacon in zip lock 1 week in fridge Turn twice daily Then remove rinse thoroughly Back in fridge 4 hours Smoke to your liking. Tried 1 1/2 hours Found little to strong Next batch did for 40 minutes much better Then put back in fridge for one hour to firm up Slice fry up enjoy I have used this recipe several times now, it's a very basic one which is what I was looking for. I cold smoke mine (no heat) and have tried several different types of wood and different lengths of time, my favorite is maple for about an hour. I wanted to stay away from the nitrates (pink salt /cure #1) because I'd heard a lot of bad things about them. I use either coarse pickling salt or coarse sea salt to stay away from the iodine in table salt.
misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 Good info here guys. Now you make me to want to try 1 of the above recipes. How big is the slab of bacon are you using? I have a wood fired smoker - rather old school lottsa firewood & various flavors of wood chips. I can also get all the fruitwood I want. The apple, peach, cherry & pear orchards are close by. Is it critical to bring the slab to 150 F? Comments are welcome as always. page 94 http://ontariofishingcommunity.com/forums/uploads/av-3.jpg?_r=1170297371
misfish Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 I have used this recipe several times now, it's a very basic one which is what I was looking for. I cold smoke mine (no heat) and have tried several different types of wood and different lengths of time, my favorite is maple for about an hour. I wanted to stay away from the nitrates (pink salt /cure #1) because I'd heard a lot of bad things about them. I use either coarse pickling salt or coarse sea salt to stay away from the iodine in table salt. Hey Big. Your still alive to tell all about it, so I must be ok.
FloatnFly Posted January 11, 2016 Report Posted January 11, 2016 pink salt is just regular curing salt dyed pink, it was done so people didn't confuse the curing salt for regular table salt in the cupboard. We sell both at the shop, 5oz is enough to do around 100lbs of meat so use it carefully without the nitrates, you meat will go off a lot faster, say 2 weeks once opened from a vacuum sealed bag, we have tried to do the nitrate free hams for the deli counter, and the shelf life just wasn't worth it to please a few customers
Big Cliff Posted January 11, 2016 Report Posted January 11, 2016 Once cured and sliced I freeze my bacon on a cookie sheet on parchment paper in individual strips. Once frozen I put it into a ziploc bag and remove as much air as I can. Then when I want bacon I can just remove as many strips as I need at a time.
misfish Posted January 11, 2016 Author Report Posted January 11, 2016 That's my plan Cliff. I remember you saying that. Thanks
Roy Posted January 11, 2016 Report Posted January 11, 2016 Pink salt is not dyed. It's a naturally occurring salt from the Himalayas. Purest, best quality salt in the world. The only dyed pink salt that I know of is either dyed salt licks or the pink salt used by some merchants to make their meats appear fresher. This may or may not be good for your application but it is what it is. Happy brining brudder.
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