spincast Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 For those of us who hit the big lakes, this is cool http://ocsdata.ncd.noaa.gov/BookletChart/GreatLakesBookletCharts.htm Also handy in case that pesky Hamilton boat shows up...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Thanks, great link!, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mills Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Good resource, thx for posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Good resource but don't be so sure a home printed chart will help with "in case that pesky Hamilton boat shows up....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 it wont. they want to see the full sized paper charts....freaking thing takes up half the front of my boat when un-scrolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spincast Posted March 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 well that's a drag. Was hoping I didn't need that huge thing in the boat anymore - the thing is so big you can use it as a sail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 there is one trick, but likely won't work for the person who is using it as a trick. after buying the map, i've been checked three times. all three times they asked to see my charts. once i took out the "tube", they didn't ask me to take the map "OUT" of the tube.... i know a couple anglers who only have tubes - empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbag Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 What is the fine for not having a chart on board? Where can you purchase the chart and how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Checked by whom and for what? Why do you need a map in your boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Checked by whom and for what? Why do you need a map in your boat? By the water fuzz. So you can tell them where to go...with accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Contact Transport Canada regarding the need for paper charts. I spoke to a Transport Canada officer last spring and asked the very question of the need for paper charts onboard. His response; The rules and regulations with regards to marine travel are controlled by Transport Canada. The police simply enforce them. There is no law stating you must have full paper charts onboard IF you have reasonable knowledge of the water you are on. In my case he said "If you are stopped out somewhere on Lake Erie and you can point the direction to Buffalo, Crystal Beach and say Lackawanna, you have shown reasonable knowledge. He then went on to tell me if I am every charged with not having paper charts, contact Transport Canada and they will step in on my behalf and contact the department of the charging officer. Also, if paper charts were mandatory, they would be listed in the must have safety equipment list for each vessel length ie fire extinguisher, life jackets, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 NOAA in the States are actually phasing out paper maps. You can electronically download them but they actually prefer that you use the E maps because they are updated more frequently. http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2013/20131022_nauticalcharts.html Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 grimsbylander, unfortunately Transport Canada is not in the OPP Marine boat when they pull ya over. I tested the "sufficient knowledge" portion. I'm very confident there isn't another angler who has spent more time in Western Lake O over the last 10 years than myself. I was quickly told I did not have sufficient knowledge as I was unable to name the patterns of flashing lights on shell pier, nor could I advise that a fictitious point didn't exist on Lake Ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spincast Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I can't help but think that a court date on that would be an interesting exercise of one's rights. I have met a few enforcement personnel over the years who have the same approach with respect to the HTA. It is interesting to see who (doesn't) show up for the court date, and how rarely such charges actually get heard. Of course that does mean a day away from work, but sometimes, its worth it. Its a shame when to serve and protect becomes warped to intimidate and offend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 For me it would be a day off work that I would gladly loose to make the point. If it wasn't for zippers, some of them wouldn't know which side is front or back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 That was my point and why I mentioned it here. I am aware that Transport Canada is not in the police boat. If they were, there wouldn't be a charge laid in the first place. I too would gladly head off to court. Maybe a loss for them there would make a difference for others later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Farmer Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Wonder how that chart would help you in the fog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tender52 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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