Old Ironmaker Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Hendrick did enough too win but sometimes to beat a champion and legend you need to knock him out. Back when the world champ in boxing didn't have 5 belts draped over his shoulder an opponent would have to knock him out or best him to a pulp perhaps to take the title. Read a play by play, sure read like a close fight. Will need to see the replay. Sounds like JSP is going to take a long break. He's done everything a world champion should, and with class. He has nothing to prove or win, all that is left is lose after a stellar career. That would be a shame. Stepping away from the ring after all he has done is the right thing to do now. No shame in going out on top, no shame whatsoever. Congratulations to all the fighters, no losers tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan668 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Absolute robbery. Did anyone else notice how gsp also looked smaller? (VADA testing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I figured gsp won, in title fights the challenger has to win big to get the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I figured gsp won, in title fights the challenger has to win big to get the title You got it.. They wouldn't hand over the belt on a decision like that. I don't know why everyone is so surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenboater Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Didn't see the fight but there are some who swear Hendricks tapped when GSP had the guillotine sunk in. GSP should go out on a high note and just take super fights. Rory, that was a surprise. Guess he thought he had it in the bag being the favourite, still think he has the goods and this loss *should* do him good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Didn't see the fight but there are some who swear Hendricks tapped when GSP had the guillotine sunk in. GSP should go out on a high note and just take super fights. Rory, that was a surprise. Guess he thought he had it in the bag being the favourite, still think he has the goods and this loss *should* do him good. I noticed that too...not sure if he tapped but his hand was doing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaf4 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 There was an attempt it seems but then I think his mind is changed once he starts getting back up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMCVSV4v7WA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Edited November 17, 2013 by Misfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Well I won`t be clicking on any of those virus,trojan laden links again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Did ya get it all fixed up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Did ya get it all fixed up? yep all fixed up Brian....good as new!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Just getting ready to chow down on some SURF. Edited November 17, 2013 by Misfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 St Pierre won by split decision...my opinion Hendrick won easily...george is messed up bad and Johnny doesnt have a scratch...crowd is booing the decision People quite often make their decision based on who got their faces messed up. That not what judges look at...especially in Nevada where boxing is huge. GSP was ahead on the scorecards for # of landed punches, successful takedowns and time advancing/aggressor. There is only one benefit to hitting harder on the scorecard...a knockout. Without KO they have to resort to # of landed strikes. It was a very close fight and maybe Hendricks should have got the win based on how he seemed so much more powerful than GSP and his ability to rock him when he did strike, but unfortunately for Hendricks, that's not what will win you a decision. He needed to put him down or rack up points. If there's another fight, I think they'll be a KO...he's a powerful striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Anyone who thinks Hendricks won this out right should read this... What your face looks like really doesn't matter. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1853770-georges-st-pierre-vs-johny-hendricks-breaking-down-the-fightmetric-numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawarthaGuy Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Hate to see the belt change hands on a split decision. KO, TKO or unanimous only but hey I'm old school. The champ deserves one wakeup call and GSP has been served. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 i guess its the "old" school vs "new" school on this one. i had about 15 folks in my basement watching the fight. EVERY ONE OF US agreed GSP got his butt kicked - except one ... my old man. Dad said you don't take out a champ in a split decision. No matter what. He appeared to be right. UFC lost a lot of credibility after that decision.....folks at work today said it was the worst decision they have witnessed.... they may not be "fight" superfans, but they are one thing - paying customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 People quite often make their decision based on who got their faces messed up. That not what judges look at...especially in Nevada where boxing is huge. GSP was ahead on the scorecards for # of landed punches, successful takedowns and time advancing/aggressor. There is only one benefit to hitting harder on the scorecard...a knockout. Without KO they have to resort to # of landed strikes. It was a very close fight and maybe Hendricks should have got the win based on how he seemed so much more powerful than GSP and his ability to rock him when he did strike, but unfortunately for Hendricks, that's not what will win you a decision. He needed to put him down or rack up points. If there's another fight, I think they'll be a KO...he's a powerful striker. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaf4 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 i guess its the "old" school vs "new" school on this one. i had about 15 folks in my basement watching the fight. EVERY ONE OF US agreed GSP got his butt kicked - except one ... my old man. Dad said you don't take out a champ in a split decision. No matter what. He appeared to be right. UFC lost a lot of credibility after that decision.....folks at work today said it was the worst decision they have witnessed.... they may not be "fight" superfans, but they are one thing - paying customers. it shouldn't be the UFC losing credibility for the decision, Dana white would've given the fight to Johny Hendricks, but alas he also expressed a flaw in his personal scoring system I believe he said something along the lines of "it's about damage" in which case no it is not unless you're talking strictly knockout wins then yes it is, but when they score the take downs the significant strikes the takedown stuffs and all the other things in play that's what a decision is based on. Although Dana white did express extreme disinterest in wanting do deal with the Nevada state athletic commission because he is afraid of the potential to lose credibility as boxing once did due to bad judges and it's too bad they aren't allowed to hire their own judging staff and it has to be a third party cause I'm sure Dana would find the best possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) it shouldn't be the UFC losing credibility for the decision, Dana white would've given the fight to Johny Hendricks, but alas he also expressed a flaw in his personal scoring system I believe he said something along the lines of "it's about damage" in which case no it is not unless you're talking strictly knockout wins then yes it is, but when they score the take downs the significant strikes the takedown stuffs and all the other things in play that's what a decision is based on. Although Dana white did express extreme disinterest in wanting do deal with the Nevada state athletic commission because he is afraid of the potential to lose credibility as boxing once did due to bad judges and it's too bad they aren't allowed to hire their own judging staff and it has to be a third party cause I'm sure Dana would find the best possible Personally, I'm not a Dana White fan. I think he's a clever guy but I don't believe a word he says...he's part of the show. That's just my opinion. It's dead easy for him to get all up in arms and "authorize" an immediate rematch. He's the guy that makes a killing on a fight like that. He is the number one beneficiary of the controversy and a subsequent rematch. I'm not saying he orchestrated it, I'm just saying the huffing and puffing is hype. He's thrilled at the thought of a rematch and so would I. But he's got to get GSP back in the octagon first. Edited November 19, 2013 by grimsbylander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenboater Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 GSP should retire and really po White who acts like a bully. He often times sets up matches based on popularity and not on rankings. If it smells good for ppv, it's on regardless of deserving challengers or not. He doth protest too much iow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Round two, coming in 2016 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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