seanik Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 I am asking for some current information and advice on getting from the QEW to 400 North not using the 407 ETR. We will be going through Toronto Thursday Aug.9 at about 11:00Am and traveling to Capreol, Ont. and boarding Via Rail for an 18 hr train trip to Flindt Landing Lodge in the Wabakimi Park. We did this trip last year with great fishing results but the train was most enjoyable. Is there a good alternate route to the 400 N avoiding the tolls? Seanik
Terry Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) qew to 427 north 401 east 400 north is how I go dang, beat me by that much...lol Edited July 31, 2012 by Terry
BillM Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 The 427 is crap, I don't think they've done road maintenance to that thing for 20 years.. I'd take QEW/403/401/400N..
Fish4Eyes Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 Anywhere between 10-11:00am you will be okay getting to 400, assuming there are no lane restrictions due to collisions. Not sure where you are leaving from but it sounds like Hamilton/Niagara area. Take QEW and then 403E. You can ride the carpool lane all the way to the 401 which increases your odds of not being delayed. Once you are on 401E, the 400N ramp is not far. If by chance you notice the 401E is busy, take 427N to 409E, then 409E to 401E. You will merge back onto 401E about 1km west of the 400N ramp, so make sure you are in the far right lane to be able to safely access the ramp. Keep an eye out for the large overhead electronic message signs for traffic delays.
Christopheraaron Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 QEW- 401-400 or QEW-427-401-400 first option would be your best bet.
Terry Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 QEW- 401-400 or QEW-427-401-400 first option would be your best bet. is this the route you drive your car
adempsey Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 The 427 is just fine south of the 401. Either route mentioned should be good (QEW-403E-401E-400N OR QEW-427N-401E-400N), especially at 11AM on a weekday. I'd probably go with the 403E route with the carpool lane, as long as you have at least three people in the car. Taking the 409 MIGHT help a bit if it's busy, but I've only gone that route when it's really bad STOP-AND-GO traffic. I don't think it saves much time, just some frustration. I'd probably stay in the Express lane on the 401 as well to make things easier, but the collectors might be faster if you really need to save 5 minutes, lol.
farsider Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 The 427 is crap, I don't think they've done road maintenance to that thing for 20 years.. I'd take QEW/403/401/400N.. Are you referring to the last three years of maintenance which is still ongoing or the three more years still to come? Also, total travel time between QEW and 401 at 11:00 am would be like four minutes. How "crap" could that be? Cheers, Mark
BillM Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 Are you referring to the last three years of maintenance which is still ongoing or the three more years still to come? Also, total travel time between QEW and 401 at 11:00 am would be like four minutes. How "crap" could that be? Cheers, Mark You must actually work on the road crew to be defending the 427, lol! The 403/401 route is 100% better.
cram Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 427 is fine (crap??), but 403 to 401 is faster.
Fisherman Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 It's evident that opinions about personal road travel and directions are as rampant as those who think they are good drivers.
cram Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 Okay - let me clarify. The 427 is not a wasteland road from a mad max movie. 99% of travelers wouldn't notice the "lack of maintenance" you're referring to. In terms of driving distance, they're about the same. 403 has potential to be faster because you avoid the downtown toronto traffic.
bassman87 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 The 427 is crap, I don't think they've done road maintenance to that thing for 20 years.. I'd take QEW/403/401/400N.. Are you referring to the last three years of maintenance which is still ongoing or the three more years still to come? Also, total travel time between QEW and 401 at 11:00 am would be like four minutes. How "crap" could that be? Cheers, Mark
Billy Bob Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 Whatever route you decide on........remember to stay in the middle lane........
Raf Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 427 from QEW to 401 will be fast than 403. the latter winds around, the former is a drag strip.
solopaddler Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 Okay - let me clarify. The 427 is not a wasteland road from a mad max movie. Okay that made me laugh. Anyhow mid morning you'll be fine using either of the routes mentioned, although I do believe QEW-427-401 TO 400 is the fastest. I'm much more interested in your trip. How about a report on Flindt Landing when you return? Over the years I've done several canoe trips in that immediate vicinity getting dropped off along the tracks west of Armstrong. I agree the train is fantastic, but man is it ever expensive! I'd use it all the time if I could afford to. Cheers
Christopheraaron Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 LOL To get from the QEW to 401 you need a plane. Whoops, QEW-403-401-400
SlowPoke Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 Whatever route you decide on........remember to stay in the middle lane........ Don't even get me started! Especially after a 1348 km day!
Handlebarz Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 listen to am 640 and 680 they will give you the best updates on the roads 680 is every 10 min so put it on and listen then make your choice from all of the above clowns
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