DRIFTER_016 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Last week there was a thread poseted about an OOS smallmouth bass fishing video. At the time I sent in a complaint to the MNR about the video. Well I just got an email back from them. Enjoy!!!! Hi Dave Thanks for sending in the tip about pre season bass fishing. I'm just letting you know that we're aware of the tip and are actioning it (it has been reported to us four times thus far). Take care and thanks again. Bill Bill Fisher Supervisor, Special Investigations Services Unit Intelligence and Investigations Section 300 Water St., 1st Fl., N. Tower, Peterborough, ON K9J 8M5 Office Phone: (705) 755-3271 Fax: (705) 755-3290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyBug Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 :good: Last week there was a thread poseted about an OOS smallmouth bass fishing video. At the time I sent in a complaint to the MNR about the video. Well I just got an email back from them. Enjoy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Well I for one am glad that they're "actioning" on it. edited to add: Maybe the wrong icon used there. You just so seldom see the present participle of some words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live2fish85 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funfishing Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 MNR: "Hey guys. Glad that you were out enjoying sport fishing. Looks like you guys are well on your way towards becoming accomplished anglers. Nice high quality gear by the way. Fishing is a wonderful contributor to our economy. Your license fees allow me to feed my family - thanks for that. I see you were out doing some late season steelhead fishing on the beautiful Maitland River. That's awesome. Very generous of you guys to film your adventures and put them online for others to enjoy. I see that you happened into some OOS smallmouth, and released them all. Good on you guys. You guys probably didn't know, but catching OOS fish and releasing them is still technically illegal. Allow me to clarify. If you come here again for late season steelhead, try to fish pools and use baits that allow you to hook up with steel but keep the bass off. If you find you are consistently catching bass, the law stipulates that you need to switch baits or move on to another pool, so as to avoid catching OOS bass. Since you guys posted this video online, you obviously weren't intentionally breaking the law. We've had some anglers send in your video to complain. So we thought it would be fair to give you guys this warning, so next time you can follow the regs appropriately. If you guys only caught a few incidental bass, and released them all, you did not break any laws. Taking a picture with an OOS fish is legal. Try to be as gentle as possible with the release of fish. This comes with practice and experience." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funfishing Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Or some unreasonable, insane CO can try and charge them, because, my God, look what they've done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) the guy who chopped up the student did it on video and posted it on-line so I guess he didn't know it was wrong/illegal to kill a person and send the body parts around the country some insane cop can try and charge him, because, my God, look what they've done! Edited June 20, 2012 by Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funfishing Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I can't believe you brought that up on a fishing forum, speechless. Mods best delete that asap, that's disgusting. I for one will not perpetuate the cynical attitude that all people are inherently "bad" and need to be "disciplined", the attitude that is behind so much of society's woes. Just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) it's on the news each day get over it you brought up the silly comment , they posted it on the internet they must be innocent and I showed how silly that was.... it'slife and it's on the news each day...grow up Edited June 20, 2012 by Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funfishing Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Unreal mate, to bring that up into this discussion. Truly sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) note to self this guy must a 10 year old boy ... Edited June 20, 2012 by Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) note to selfthis guy must a 10 year old boy Maybe a brother? How did we go from this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Hi Dave Thanks for sending in the tip about pre season bass fishing. I'm just letting you know that we're aware of the tip and are actioning it (it has been reported to us four times thus far). Take care and thanks again. Bill Bill Fisher Supervisor, Special Investigations Services Unit Intelligence and Investigations Section 300 Water St., 1st Fl., N. Tower, Peterborough, ON K9J 8M5 Office Phone: (705) 755-3271 Fax: (705) 755-3290 To this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, MNR: "Hey guys. Glad that you were out enjoying sport fishing. Looks like you guys are well on your way towards becoming accomplished anglers. Nice high quality gear by the way. Fishing is a wonderful contributor to our economy. Your license fees allow me to feed my family - thanks for that. I see you were out doing some late season steelhead fishing on the beautiful Maitland River. That's awesome. Very generous of you guys to film your adventures and put them online for others to enjoy. I see that you happened into some OOS smallmouth, and released them all. Good on you guys. You guys probably didn't know, but catching OOS fish and releasing them is still technically illegal. Allow me to clarify. If you come here again for late season steelhead, try to fish pools and use baits that allow you to hook up with steel but keep the bass off. If you find you are consistently catching bass, the law stipulates that you need to switch baits or move on to another pool, so as to avoid catching OOS bass. Since you guys posted this video online, you obviously weren't intentionally breaking the law. We've had some anglers send in your video to complain. So we thought it would be fair to give you guys this warning, so next time you can follow the regs appropriately. If you guys only caught a few incidental bass, and released them all, you did not break any laws. Taking a picture with an OOS fish is legal. Try to be as gentle as possible with the release of fish. This comes with practice and experience." Edited June 20, 2012 by Misfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funfishing Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Maybe a brother? How did you figure that out, with no secret handshake or anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tb4me Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 LOL I guess some folks didnt have as good of a weekend fishing as I did.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 LOL I guess some folks didnt have as good of a weekend fishing as I did.... I had a great weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 How did you figure that out, with no secret handshake or anything? Answer the real question please. Dave is a true standing member with fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I posted the original thread---twice---and it got deleted both times. I assume it must have been a software glitch because there didn't seem to be any good reason to delete. I know God works in mysterious ways, but there seems to be a lot of that going around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funfishing Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I just hate to see phronemophobia, especially directed at fellow anglers. Educate your fellow anglers and treat them with respect. I mentioned in the first post on this topic, that these guys obviously are not experienced anglers based on how they were trying to hold that steelhead in the vid. Not everyone has the privilege of being taught to fish as kids. Many are self-taught later in life and don't have decades of experience. Learning takes time. Please refer to my first post in this thread if you need to be reminded that there are ambiguities surrounding the laws of OOS fish. Not everyone will immediately comprehend them - I guarantee you many on this forum think that it's illegal to take a photograph with an OOS fish - it isn't! Currently there is no test administered by the MNR that an angler must pass prior to obtaining their license. If you can't bare the sight of someone catching OOS bass, you should write the MNR and petition for a test. And you should also avoid all of the Kawartha Lakes before opener - because everyday guys are catching oodles of OOS bass and feigning innocence when they are the ones that do know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAW Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) Good on ya Drifter. No comment on anything else in the thread. Edited June 20, 2012 by N.A.W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funfishing Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I am glad that Knuguy posted this thread initially, as it brings to the table grounds for a productive discussion. We need to encourage thinking, not censor it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 and I think we should let the MNR decide the outcome and ignore peoples personal opinions base on their opinions and not on facts you might even be right or you could be dead wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 so what exactly happened/? was somebody fishing for steelhead and catching bass accidentally or some people were being stupid and catching bass out of season and filming it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funfishing Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 and I think we should let the MNR decide the outcome and ignore peoples personal opinions base on their opinions and not on facts you might even be right or you could be dead wrong Thank you Terry. These guys might have been breaking the law. They might have been breaking the law intentionally. If they drove to the Maitland to target bass that day. They also might have simply caught a few incidental bass, filmed it, and posted it on youtube. Not illegal. My own fishing experience tells me, that based on viewing how those men handled that steelhead, that they are relatively new to fishing, however successful they may be at catching. Each of those guys will have a different amount of experience. I hope they don't waste too much time and taxpayers money. Signs indicating that bass are off limits, even with C&R, posted along the Maitland River - would be a great step forward and cost effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 In the US they use online videos against "sportsmen" all the time. Sometimes the person in the video makes a mistake and sometimes they know exactly what they are doing. For instance, earlier this year Ted Nugent was convicted of an offence in Alaska. He was up filming a bear hunt and winged a bear with his arrow. They tracked the bear and after quite a long time determined that the bear was ok and merely winged. They carried on with the hunt and harvested a nice bear. Unfortunately by winging the previous bear under Alaska law they should have stopped hunting because in the regs when you take a shot at an animal it is considered in your bag limit if you hit it or not. By law Ted's hunt was over the second he released the arrow. Unfortunately neither he or any of his crew knew about this law as their hunting regs are like Ontario's fishing regs. Any how, someone saw a video online of him missing the first bear and then harvesting a bear and let the ADFG know about it. Ted was charged with taking game without a license as he only had one bear tag. He plead guilty and paid his fines and did a bunch of public service pieces to air during his show. So you see anyone can make a mistake and if they aren't made aware of their mistake it will continue. Even if the guy who posted the vid is only made aware of the error of his ways that is good in my books. So you see I only want to educate the feller about the error of his ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 And you did well. Thanks Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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