blaque Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 Was out this past weekend "steelhead fishing". Only problem was the steelhead had competition and these guys won by a landslide. Believe they are Golden Rudd?
limeyangler Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 (edited) WOW...Rudd...that brings back memories of fishing off my garden wall in the Thames River, London, England. Edited March 22, 2012 by limeyangler
blaque Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Posted March 22, 2012 looks a bit like a roach? Ya i thought that also......its a fish i rarely see either way so, not too sure on identification
blaque Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Posted March 22, 2012 Think a roach has a forked tail though, dunno
blaque Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Posted March 22, 2012 WOW...Rudd...that brings back memories of fishing off my garden wall in the Thames River, London, England. Ahhh, so your the one who brought them here
limeyangler Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 Ahhh, so your the one who brought them here They are pike dead bait in Europe!
blaque Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Posted March 22, 2012 They are pike dead bait in Europe! Ya, they seem ideal under a big ole' drennan piker float. This guy however, and its hard to tell, was a good handful in size. Actually most of them were. Maybe a bit big for bait, although, bigger the bait...bigger the fish
Rod Caster Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 Cool looking fish. Are they considered invasive? Are you supposed to release them or kill them?
DRIFTER_016 Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 Cool looking fish. Are they considered invasive? Are you supposed to release them or kill them? They look like they would be perfect chunked up and used for catfish bait.
bigugli Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 Cool looking fish. Are they considered invasive? Are you supposed to release them or kill them? They are invasives. Destroy and inform the MNR of the sighting.
cuzza Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 Definitely a Rudd, reminds me of catching them on the surface on floating maggots as a kid
jigsnreels Posted May 15, 2012 Report Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) I believe that's a golden shiner. Edited May 15, 2012 by jigsnreels
Snidley Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 I second Golden Shiner. The head and the anal fin clinch it for me but they do look very similar. Catfish bait either way.
danjang Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 Rudds have red or orange fins, so it's most likely a rudd. They could hybridize though!
fishindevil Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 it is a rudd,and you are supposed to kill it and call the mnr to report where you caught it !!! its an invasive species....it is not a golden shinner its a rudd...
Roy Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 I agree, rudd it is. Illegal to use as bait also, whether it be live or in chunks. The golden shiner on the other hand is a very popular bait and only slightly resembles the rudd.
jigsnreels Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) The rudd also has a distinctly larger eye than the golden shiner, and they're more silvery in the body as opposed to the overall golden colour that this photo displays. Both fish have reddish fins. The rudd has a shorter anal fin, whereas the shiner's anal fin is broader and extends further along toward the tail, as above. Shiners can get to be quite big, it's not uncommon to find one in the 6 inch range. So I still say it's a shiner. Where was this taken? Shiners are definitely native to the Thames and its tribs, they are not invasives. Edited May 16, 2012 by jigsnreels
blaque Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Posted May 16, 2012 The rudd also has a distinctly larger eye than the golden shiner, and they're more silvery in the body as opposed to the overall golden colour that this photo displays. Both fish have reddish fins. The rudd has a shorter anal fin, whereas the shiner's anal fin is broader and extends further along toward the tail, as above. Shiners can get to be quite big, it's not uncommon to find one in the 6 inch range. So I still say it's a shiner. Where was this taken? Shiners are definitely native to the Thames and its tribs, they are not invasives. This was caught on a South shore Lake Ont. tributary. 18 Mile to be exact
hoby5 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 Looks like a Rudd to me destroy and contact local MNR.
tonyb Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 Rudd....definately kill them and report to the NYSDEC. I'm sure they are aware, but if you were catching lots of them that's not really a good sign I've also seen confirmations of Rudd catches from the lower Niagara River.
jigsnreels Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 Rudd....definately kill them and report to the NYSDEC. I'm sure they are aware, but if you were catching lots of them that's not really a good sign Of course, if they are shiners, I think the NYSDEC folks will get a bit aggravated if they start getting tons of reports about species that have every right to be in 18 Mile.
bigugli Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 Send the jpeg to the MNR and they will get back to you in a week's time with a verification.
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