whitbyboatguy Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Plastics are known to leech toxins that cause various reproduction issues. Especially soft plastics. BPA is one of thos toxins that recently got a lot of publicity. I know there is a lot of junk in the water already. So with all the Senkos, Trigger-x etc. that gets put into the system every year (essentially now garbage)....what is the down side for the fish and other creatures that live there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgraham Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 I can't see too many of these making an impact. Most toxins predominantly settle to the bottom. The macro invertebrates and bottom feeders I would say are more at risk then anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) I was under the impression that most soft plastic baits were bio-degradable and environment friendly. edited to add This looks like a thread that Garry2rs could help us answer. Edited September 20, 2011 by mercman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitespinnerbait Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Don't worry about the little things in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cram Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 It's a really good question. Would eventually get into drinking water, albeit in tiny amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Don't worry about the little things in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 One of the major Canadian mags had a piece about plastic baits IN fish just this spring. My intertnet is down so I can't find the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Next time I catch a fish I`ll ask him if he`s not too tired from running that 52 km marathon,weigh-in,photograph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Next time I catch a fish I`ll ask him if he`s not too tired from running that 52 km marathon,weigh-in,photograph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 One of the major Canadian mags had a piece about plastic baits IN fish just this spring. My intertnet is down so I can't find the link. Yeah I read that too and it was the plastics made up to the last 2-3 years. The new stuff does break down much better. I keep a cup holder open in my boat for all 'dead' baits so they are not on the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Plugs the fishes ass up tight and they continue to eat and get big.... so catch 'em before they croak ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I could be mistaken but I thought BPA was used to make plastic stiff so wouldn't be used in soft baits. Just another one of those things that radicals get riled about. If it worries you, don't use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cram Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Soft baits have (or at least used to have) a chemical called phthalates in them. Not to sound like a "radical", but phthalates are a big deal. Ever notice little girls going through puberty way younger these days? Phthalates. They do a lot of other bad things and are about to be banned in children's toys in canada if htey aren't already. Not sure how large a source fishing lures represent (assume it's tiny), but i wouldn't be just chucking them into the water if you can avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillj Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 went snorkelling a few times this summer and came back with a handful of plastics that were conspicuously lying on bottom ... long after the hooks had rusted out. Caught a 5lb laker in thye hardwater season .. and along with about 5 minnows in her belly was a 6" Senko - partially digested ... Just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitbyboatguy Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 went snorkelling a few times this summer and came back with a handful of plastics that were conspicuously lying on bottom ... long after the hooks had rusted out. Caught a 5lb laker in thye hardwater season .. and along with about 5 minnows in her belly was a 6" Senko - partially digested ... Just sayin I check my fish for lead jigs etc in the belly. Have not found any yet but since the kids eat them too I am extra cautious. Berkley won't say what is in Gulp...just that it is biodegradable AND who said phalates are a big deal? You are right, they are. : ) and according to this article they make up 50-80% of the bait: http://www.recycledfish.org/blog/stewardship-tips/stewardship-tip-alternatives-to-soft-plastic-baits/ How many plastics are in a lake? Read the article. Personally, I bought some once and I feel bad about using them so I don't.....maybe I should sell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitbyboatguy Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) I could be mistaken but I thought BPA was used to make plastic stiff so wouldn't be used in soft baits. Just another one of those things that radicals get riled about. If it worries you, don't use them. BPA is used in making plastics that are clear, tough, pliable. The radicals are better informed than you. I am glad it was banned from MOST drinking containers (I think it is still in pop cans). But if you want some a chemical that mimics estrogen (I don't know maybe you want a smaller unit and soft breasts) or you want you boys to grow up a little further on the feminine side....drink and eat all the foodstuffs lightly laced with BPA you can get your hands on. A little goes a long way from what I read. Edited September 21, 2011 by whitbyboatguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 One of the major Canadian mags had a piece about plastic baits IN fish just this spring. My intertnet is down so I can't find the link. Ok, I'll bite...if your internet is down, how did you post this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I check my fish for lead jigs etc in the belly. Have not found any yet but since the kids eat them too I am extra cautious. Berkley won't say what is in Gulp...just that it is biodegradable AND who said phalates are a big deal? You are right, they are. : ) and according to this article they make up 50-80% of the bait: http://www.recycledfish.org/blog/stewardship-tips/stewardship-tip-alternatives-to-soft-plastic-baits/ How many plastics are in a lake? Read the article. Personally, I bought some once and I feel bad about using them so I don't.....maybe I should sell them. that would just put them straight into the water...how bout just not using them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitbyboatguy Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 that would just put them straight into the water...how bout just not using them I think you came up with that thought after you hit your head on the wall.: 1) If they did not buy mine they would go to the store and buy them and put the same amount of them in the water. 2) By buying mine they don't use up the sources supply and the source would not need to make as many. Overall less plastics in the system. Hey if I could not find a buyer that used them on a regular basis I would be happy. found that In-Fisherman article someone mentioned: http://archives.in-fisherman.com/content/biodegradables-bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Caster Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) With all them boys wearing skinny jeans I often wonder if that is the direct result of smaller gonads.... definitly not much room in there for a full pack. Plus, how would they be able to run if a bear chased them with all that restriction. I agree with the OP, lets ban skinny jeans. ... seriously, this makes a good case for using minnows and worms instead of plastics, which is basically what they try to replace. If you ever have to defend yourself to an "articifial" fisherman this is how it would go.. Artifical guy: you need live bait to catch fish? pffft you: Enjoy your tiny gonads buddy. Articial guy: you: That's right. Edited September 21, 2011 by Rod Caster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaque Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Ok, I'll bite...if your internet is down, how did you post this lol, i decided not to bite but this stuck out to me more than any of the other posts in this thread. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Ok, I'll bite...if your internet is down, how did you post this Phone still works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cram Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster4 Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 i think that lost hard baits due to snags would pose a bigger problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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