chessy Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 what right does the OPG have giving money away . its my money i pay enough in hydro i know 1.5 million is not alot of money but if i could save enough for one cup of coffee that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farsider Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I would assume this is a result of OPG trying to mitigate the close to 63 million fish, fish eggs, and larvae that are killed annually just at Pickering. It is just like Molson or Labatts "contributing" to MADD or RIDE. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Lets invest that in GBay/Huron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 It's only $250,000 per year and it's for the betterment of our fisheries. You can also go after the LCBO and a bunch more for committing the same sin. At least you'll see some benefit from those expenses. Greater amounts are stolen each year by the administrators and employees of those government institutions and you'll never reap benefits from that money. But that's JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I would assume this is a result of OPG trying to mitigate the close to 63 million fish, fish eggs, and larvae that are killed annually just at Pickering. It is just like Molson or Labatts "contributing" to MADD or RIDE. Cheers, Mark Ed Zachary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessy Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 It's only $250,000 per year and it's for the betterment of our fisheries. You can also go after the LCBO and a bunch more for committing the same sin. At least you'll see some benefit from those expenses. Greater amounts are stolen each year by the administrators and employees of those government institutions and you'll never reap benefits from that money. But that's JMO. i choose not to drink but i can not due with out hydro. your comment is like saying why complain about gas prices when bottled water works out to about 2.50 cents a liter i can choose not to drink water from a bottle but need gas for transportation . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 It doesn't mean that at all. What it means is that I'd rather see at least some of the squandered money go to a cause that some of us are interested in as opposed to that same money just disappearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 If you want to complain, try getting them to explain why we pay HST on the hydro debt retirement part of the bill. This is supposed to be loans we owe and the taxes have already been paid. I have asked our local MPP the question but was ignored. And, the MNR takes care of the fish...let hydro take care of hydro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessy Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 It doesn't mean that at all. What it means is that I'd rather see at least some of the squandered money go to a cause that some of us are interested in as opposed to that same money just disappearing. i missunderstood your statement . from looking up these non profit organizations from hospital foundations to nwtf the more money these people get the more they squander away . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Happens way too many places... I'm probably gonna start a crap storm.. but look at MADD padding leaflet printers pockets and their own. $2 Million plus deficit in 2010. Non profit for sure... $427,000 in administrative salaries. If it wasn't for 1.2 million in corporate donations they'd have run it 3+ million in the hole. If you can read a P/L, try to figure out where the "victim" fund money is going to come from it they need it? Baffles me and I've done my own corporate tax returns for 25 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) MADD has been receiving criticism for a while now. It is much deserved. John Bono has been also been criticized about how his "One Foundation" has handed out 10 million bucks in salaries and only $200 000 to charity the other year. Oliver Buston (the guy who runs it) says that they are using the money to help promote the cause and raise awareness rather than give it directly to the needy. Yuck!!! Sorry for going a little off track, but many of these so called "non profit" organizations are pretty greasy. Edit - iPhone auto correct is a pain. Edited May 18, 2011 by Grimace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aniceguy Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I could comment for about 14 pages on this entire thing, but will only add this, Atlantic salmon are no longer on the endangered list of fish, but are now classified as extinct, go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aniceguy Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 -Sinclair not even close, I think the program has merit and anything that gives me additional angling opportunities and mor fish is all good....Simply saying that the OFAH needs to know that many of thier partners might not give the sort od optics and traction they had in the first round, with the fish's new clasification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmeh Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Geez, I thought on a fishing board we might be happy they're giving money to potentially improve our fisheries. They could be padding the pockets of a few execs instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 When MADD becomes PADD (People against drunk driving) I'll be happy to donate. I explained that to one young lady that called for a donation, her comment was "lots of people feel the same way, I get that comment a lot!" Until then, I'll donate what I can to cancer research and the heart and stroke foundation or other causes that I feel are worthy of my support. When OPG stops paying stupid bonuses to their management for running things into the ground and us into debt, I'd be happy to see them donate any surplus to fish and wild life. If they are responsible for millions of fish being killed then they should be MADE to compensate the fisheries. That they donate money, my money, and get a pat on the back for doing a good deed with my money I do have a problem with that. I think I'd better go fishing tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 When MADD becomes PADD (People against drunk driving) I'll be happy to donate. I explained that to one young lady that called for a donation, her comment was "lots of people feel the same way, I get that comment a lot!" Until then, I'll donate what I can to cancer research and the heart and stroke foundation or other causes that I feel are worthy of my support. I don't condone drunk driving but I refuse to support any organization that chooses even if only by name to exclude me. When OPG stops paying stupid bonuses to their management for running things into the ground and us into debt, I'd be happy to see them donate any surplus to fish and wild life. If they are responsible for millions of fish being killed then they should be MADE to compensate the fisheries. That they donate money, my money, and get a pat on the back for doing a good deed with my money I do have a problem with that. I think I'd better go fishing tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Just reading between the lines ....i see this donation as a peace offering to something that has gone terribly wrong in the recent past...JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossover Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I was expecting people to bash salmon fishing, but it went better than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Just reading between the lines ....i see this donation as a peace offering to something that has gone terribly wrong in the recent past...JMO Yep. We have a provincial election coming up. So I imagine the government is going to give our money to all the people that are mad at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 ya hudro must be feeling guilty for all the acidental releases of heavy water that happens alot every year!!! pickering just had one a few weeks ago!!! or all the dams they have made and blovked fish migration,or the recent thousands of miles of flooding they did up near hudson bay damming up pristine rivers....the list goes on and on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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