Woodsman Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Although it's not a criminal record it will still be in the system and if a CO chooses to check for previous convictions under the Fish & Game Act it will show up on a computer search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) Although it's not a criminal record it will still be in the system and if a CO chooses to check for previous convictions under the Fish & Game Act it will show up on a computer search. To quick Woodsman. That's almost humorous considering they can look to see if you have a license but they don't. It would be a worth while Bet I'd wager for. Edited April 15, 2011 by gbfisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 It's just a fine correct? Not a criminal charge. There is no trial for a fine, just a meeting with the Crown more than likely. He'll record what you say and thats about it, it's not like you murdered someone, lol. More than likely the Crown will hear you out, reduce the fine, then you pay it. Thats about it He'll stand in front of the judge.. And depending on where the court is, that's the only person he'll talk to.. The Crown can recommend the fine be reduced, but they don't approve it.. That's the job of the judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perodimi Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 So let me get this straight because I'm confused now. If my buddy and I are fishing on my boat, do we have to keep our fish seperate? We often put our fish into one livewell. Is this considered party fishing? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 So let me get this straight because I'm confused now. If my buddy and I are fishing on my boat, do we have to keep our fish seperate? We often put our fish into one livewell. Is this considered party fishing? Peter if you have not more then a one person limit (including)slot size yes you both can throw your fish in a livewell...like in a tourney.... but other wish you need to be able to tell which ones are yours.......shower curtain clips work well, a safety pin or get a paper hole punch and pop a hole in the fin anything to prove which ones are yours or you are illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT8 smoker craft Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 To quick Woodsman. That's almost humorous considering they can look to see if you have a license but they don't. It would be a worth while Bet I'd wager for. They WILL call in to see if you have a previous convictions or fines saw it with my own eye's last weekend guy forgot to renew his lisence and because he had no previous convictions he got a warning and 24 hours to get his lisence and prove it which he did the CO was really nice and treated him fairly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 He'll stand in front of the judge.. And depending on where the court is, that's the only person he'll talk to.. The Crown can recommend the fine be reduced, but they don't approve it.. That's the job of the judge. Actually for this type of charge he will appear in front of a Justice of the Peace not a Judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 To quick Woodsman. That's almost humorous considering they can look to see if you have a license but they don't. It would be a worth while Bet I'd wager for. What makes you think they don't check your drivers license validity? Every time your stopped by the police when they run you for a driving related stop, they also include a drivers license check and criminal records check. Firearms registry check is also done on most calls in particular if it's at your home or is violence related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 See, this is just the stuff that gets me raging. Here is a guy, who seems decent enough, who gets nailed for something silly. Between the 3 guys on board, they were well under thier combined limits. No big deal IMO. Meanwhile, just down the lake, is a boat with 4 guys, keeping EVERYTHING that comes over the gunnels (bass included, and over limits) and gets away with it. Our justice system is a joke. I say we all take it into our own hands. The MNR is a JOKE!! Ministry of NO RESULTS!!!! I've been out for panfish 3 times, each time I witnessed infractions. Each time I called the tips line, one time leaving my GPS coordinates. Still NOTHING happens. I haven't even talked to a real person on that line yet. What a joke!!!!! Man, this stuff pisses me off!!!! I swear, the next ignorant that gets within casting distance of my boat, bumps into my boat, or i see keeping too many, or the wrong species of fish, is gonna push the wrong button, and I'm gonna snap...........then it will be ME who gets charged......such a JOKE!!! I'm usually a very calm, easy going, nice guy, but enough is enough!! To hear that you were charged for something so minor, while, on the same day I reported guys releasing dead fish, to keep bigger ones, really burns my I hope you go to court and it gets thrown out!! I know I would be going!!! Good luck!! S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daplumma Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 A conservation license...REALLY?!I live in Virginia and buy a regular license for Petes sake.The license pays for the activity you enjoy.Come up on off of that cash man.The difference is less than a tank of gas. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 What makes you think they don't check your drivers license validity? Every time your stopped by the police when they run you for a driving related stop, they also include a drivers license check and criminal records check. Firearms registry check is also done on most calls in particular if it's at your home or is violence related. I'm talking about a fishing license and where I fish they take yer stuff and make you go to court to prove you have one. 24hrs to show is almost unheard of. Sure they can do that but as I said..where I fish they don't You told him to quick that it would not go on his criminal record if he has one....is all I meant...lol Was just having a bit of fun. till you wrecked it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Actually for this type of charge he will appear in front of a Justice of the Peace not a Judge. You're splitting hairs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esoxansteel Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 You should have been fishin under the CNR at the Ganny and casting North, the CO,s never charge anyone for doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I'm talking about a fishing license and where I fish they take yer stuff and make you go to court to prove you have one. 24hrs to show is almost unheard of. Sure they can do that but as I said..where I fish they don't Actually they may be able to check if you have a valid fishing license. As the licenses can be sold by non-ministry staff & most are (ie: Canadian Tire, fishing/tackle shops ect.) if the retailer has not forwarded the paperwork to the ministry & or the ministry has processed it yet you may have a valid license that they have no access to validating. A charge of "failure to produce a license" (onus on you) is not the same as " fishing without a license" although the penalties may not seem to tell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctdd2006 Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 That's the main thing I want is to remove this crap from my record Is it really on your record...or just a fine like a speeding ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Is it really on your record...or just a fine like a speeding ticket? It depends on what record your talking about. It will not appear on a criminal records check but will appear on a check of your drivers license records if it's a speeding ticket. IIRC it's there for 3 years. Not sure haw long a Fish & Game Act convictions remains on file. Liquor License Act convictions are also available to the police if they decide to check them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessy Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 naw they just club them will trees on the ganny when they want to kill em... then they usually miss a few times before they get it right. LMAO ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Put him in jail and he who has never violated the law cast the first fish at him...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I don't consider party fishing a big deal... but it is the law, so you can't/shouldn't do it he got caught I don't look at him as a rapist of our natural resources.... a minor infraction he got caught the fine is a slap on the wrist if I made a choice to break the law, I sure as hell would not post it on a website and really really really not on this site which does hold people up to the highest morality standards ..........which isn't a bad thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I don't consider party fishing a big deal... but it is the law, so you can't/shouldn't do it Maybe it's a law that needs to be changed. Some laws no longer make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Maybe it's a law that needs to be changed. Some laws no longer make sense. You mean like these? 2 guys, 25 dumb laws, 1 absurd American crime spree. One of them is fishing related: Fishing in your pyjamas is illegal in Chicago. http://www.randomhouse.com/crown/youcangetarrestedforthat/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) I think a lot of laws need to be changed....however this one may have it's place I do know of someone who took 6 kids fishing the kids caught about 10 fish total, then he proceeded to catch a limit for each of the kids plus his limit................ he wasn't taking kids fishing, he was taking limits that he wanted to fill, fishing ..if party fishing became legal this could happen more often many/most fishermen believe the reg that you have to release a slot sized fish, even if it died to be absurd their argument seems sound, "I didn't know it was a slot sized fish when I hooked it, it's bladder was sticking out of it's mouth..it is dead why oh why would you let perfectly good meat go to waste ........you didn't mean to kill it you didn't break the law killing it why waste the meat..make it part of your limit and you reduce the number of fish you kill/take home and release dead.. but if they change the law you know people will keep fish out of the hole long enough to kill the fish then say oops I can' release it , I guess I will have to keep this slot sized fish now.........it would happen a lot..IMHO checks and balances Edited April 16, 2011 by Terry® Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofish4me Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) Lots of laws need changing. For instance: It's illegal to shoot your own vehicle. I won't explain how I know this, long story. Hahahaha I think the party fishing law is OK. Edited April 16, 2011 by nofish4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Lots of laws need changing. For instance: It's illegal to shoot your own vehicle. what the hell I won't explain how I know this, long story. Hahahaha I think the party fishing law is OK. It is also a BIG NO NO to shoot yourself in the leg in NYC...just ask Plaxico Burress....LOL dumb is schedule to be release in June for shooting himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I wonder if it is illegal to fart in a crowded elevator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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