bigredfisher Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 hey i was at scugog today. i was with my dad and another buddy from the board making our limit 70 (i have a conservation licence). We were all thowing the fish we were catching into one pail, anyways my question is can i not catch more than my limit and "give" them to my dad or buddy as long as its within their limits??? It was a 180 dollar fine and i dont need this crap on my record(i am one to pick up garbage, take mine with me,and volunteer in fish lifts and such).... what can i do here?? am i in the wrong??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 "Party" fishing is illegal in Ontario... they got ya fair and square! Also.. everyone needs their catch seperate or immediately identifiable. Paper punch thru a tail fin would probably hold up in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Like Wayne said no party fishing, nice to see our Co`s out doing there job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 hey i was at scugog today. i was with my dad and another buddy from the board making our limit 70 (i have a conservation licence). We were all thowing the fish we were catching into one pail, anyways my question is can i not catch more than my limit and "give" them to my dad or buddy as long as its within their limits??? It was a 180 dollar fine and i dont need this crap on my record(i am one to pick up garbage, take mine with me,and volunteer in fish lifts and such).... what can i do here?? am i in the wrong??? Sorry, yes you are in the wrong! If I may ask. Why did you buy a conservation license anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipfisher Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 You had to stop fishing(or target another open species) when you reached your limit. Why do you only have a conservation licence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnimon Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Catching and keeping beyond you limit ,hmmmm? Then to pass them off,,,,,,NO! Im curious as if there is a special permit to do so threw the mnr. Like a group tag . Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigredfisher Posted April 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 i bought the conservation cause i dont normally keep fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 i bought the conservation cause i dont normally keep fish. LOL.. but this time you wanted to be able to catch and keep 4 to 7 times YOUR limit??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 bottom line is you broke the law...... you would have a hard time fighting it in court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigredfisher Posted April 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 no i gave my dad some to fill his limit (i was geeting more) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 LOL.. but this time you wanted to be able to catch and keep 4 to 7 times YOUR limit??! Ya thats a big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnerbaitking Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I believe once you catch your limit you need to target another species or quit fishing, quit keeping one short of your limit just to be sure your legal SBK He could have continued targeting crappie, but catch and release only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigredfisher Posted April 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 by the way never said i kept 7 times my limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 GUILTY! Book em Dano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipfisher Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) I believe once you catch your limit you need to target another species or quit fishing, quit keeping one short of your limit just to be sure your legal SBK That's what I thought SBK. You can catch and release before you reach your limit but not after...except if fish are alive and in a live well and you are culling to keep the best fish for your limit? I'm guessing your dad nor EC1 knew the regs either. It was a mistake but you'll have to pay the fine. Edited April 15, 2011 by Nipfisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeGuy Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Hey Pal, you picked the wrong forum to make your confession. These boys can be brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 bottom line is you broke the law...... you would have a hard time fighting it in court No he won't.. He'd be silly not to go to court and plead to a lessor charge or at least a reduced fine. They'll give it to him without issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I have no doubt that you made a mistake, and were not intentionally keeping more than your limit.But the MNRs have heard it all before, and that is why you got the ticket.When i am fishing with someone, i always ask to see their permit, so i know what kind they have, and i always try to be aware of the regulations in the area where i fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adempsey Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) If you can, I would just challenge it. It sounds like it's a first offence and maybe you'll come out for the better as a result. It can't get worse besides the potential time away from work. Honestly, I don't think you purposely were trying to break the law and what you were doing seems logical to most people. Unfortunately these types of laws are in place because there are people who would take advantage of it - give fish to each of their family members etc to "reset" their limit. At least the CO didn't confiscate your gear. Good luck! Edited April 15, 2011 by FishLogic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Unfortunately these types of laws are in place because there are people who would take advantage of it - give fish to each of their family members etc to "reset" their limit. At least the CO didn't confiscate your gear. Good luck! Well they did take advantage of it, and it would appear that neither took the time to read the regs concerning party fishing. You see it pays to read and heed rather than hope and be a _______. You fill in the blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC1 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) I guess I have to make an apology too for not knowing that you can't put everyone's fish into the same bucket. BUT, at the same time, I don't think I've ever asked someone what type of license they're holding. Nipfisher, I think it's a little bit of an assumption that I don't know my limit though. There was a total of 57 fish in between us, I took 18, and the rest were Bigredfisher and his dad. If the numbers we counted were correct, there should be 39 fish in their possession (under the 40 that was legal). I apologize for not making 100% sure of our limits before hand. I had an awesome time today...but this pretty much turned that upside down. Edited April 15, 2011 by EC1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) I know party fishing is against the law. In the past, I also cannot guarantee none of my fish have counted against my boat mates fish or vis versa. I'm not as pure as most it appears. We now use a stringer with 4 marked hooks each, as wall-eye (you can kiss my on the word censor) on Nipissing is about the only place we are likely to keep a limit. Edit: Try spelling wall-eye without the hyphen and see what happens. It's one thing to be wrong and ill informed but childish, come on. Edited April 15, 2011 by kickingfrog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADB Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Sometimes inexperience is exactly that...inexperience. You gotta learn sometime. I've been fishing for years but I never knew that you had to keep your fish seperate from the fish of the other people in the boat. Then again, I hardly ever keep fish anyways. Seems like an honest mistake to me. If you believe their numbers, at least there were under the aggregate limit between the three of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brifishrgy Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 time to go pick up an extra white bucket and a hole punch for when I am in the boat and ya a wall-eye will always be a wall-eye no matter what these sensors say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindude Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) Glad to see the CO's doing their job, seems as if there is almost a daily report of them out there lately Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I, like many others here as well, was unaware of the regulations regarding the limits and this so-called "party fishing," just another perk to this forum. Will definitely keep this in mind next time I'm group fishing and keeping a limit. Edited April 15, 2011 by fishindude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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