Leafs.....

[tb4me]

no band wagon jumping here..Im a leaf fan true and true. Always will be and to the haters all I can read is BLA BLA BLA..it will be our turn soon enough..I just hope you all can take it as much as ya all dish er out!

 

GO LEAFS GO!!!!

[lookinforwalleye]

Chaos? We're talking about hockey. Win or lose it doesn't change anything.

 

I think this team has potential. Get rid of Giguere, the monster to start,bring up the rookie goaltender, get some fresh coaching, teach our defensemen to be more disciplined a few trades and we're good.

 

Everyone is talking about rebuilding. What do you think Burke has done? We have the youngest team in the league.

 

Leafs have to get used to each other. The only line with chemistry now is the Kuleiman line. They need at least one more line. We are one center away from a decent team, and two guys away from a great team.

 

Mr.Bass you kill me!!!

[addy79]

Mr.Bass you kill me!!!

 

 

Come up with something new, better yet, go look for some walleye...

[jedimaster]

The leafs get bad bounces the same as every other team. Out of 82 games, you are going to lose some on bad bounces. You can't blame every loss on bad bounces. They certainly got a few bounces their way last night.

 

They need to start scoring on a regular basis.If they scored 3 goals every game they would have won alot more games th would have won 6 more games outright so far, and tied 3 or 4, and we wouldn't be having this conversation as the leafs would have 15 more points putting them in second behind Detroit. Even just half of those points puts them in a play off spot and we are all planning the parade route. You can't score you can't win. Plain and simple.

 

The leafs goaltending has been good enough to gather points. They need to put the puck in the net without making stupid plays like last nights OT game. If your a defensemen on a rush, shoot it and get back. Thats kinda the montra for defensemen in 4 on 4 hockey.

 

 

I don't blame this on the coach. I blame this on Burke. He needs to get a few more goal scorers and obviously a number 1 Center. Without a second line threat, Kessle is gonna have a rough time scoring.

 

 

I am not saying get rid of Burke. I think he has done a good job so far, but its his job to put the players on the ice. It may not be able to happen this year or next year even, but eitherway its on him to make deals or draft some talent. Blame whoever you want to but the fact is we need more talent up front. In the end thats the GM's job.

[jedimaster]

The Leafs are

27th in Points

28th in Goals per Game 2.22 (not good at all)

16th in Goals Allowed per game 2.83(Should be good enough)

26th in Goal Differential per game at -0.61

[Stoty]

The Leafs are

27th in Points

28th in Goals per Game 2.22 (not good at all)

16th in Goals Allowed per game 2.83(Should be good enough)

26th in Goal Differential per game at -0.61

 

LOL... nuff said!

[Rod Caster]

At least they are better than the oilers...talk about a team that has trouble rebuilding.

 

Remember the oilers cup run a couple years ago? They sucked all season, then BAM! they are in the playoffs and picking off teams...reminds me of how the Habs sucked last year then managed, some friggen how, to beat good teams. They still suck in my opinion but Gionta is doing a great job as a leader and Price, to the relief or disgust or the Habs fans (who knows with them), is playing all star hockey.

 

Disclaimer: Go Coyotes Go

[craigdritchie]

Chaos? We're talking about hockey. Win or lose it doesn't change anything.

 

I think this team has potential.

I agree. I am confident they will soon be tied with the Islanders.

Edited December 1, 2010 by Craig_Ritchie

[lookinforwalleye]

Come up with something new, better yet, go look for some walleye...

 

Tell ya what I`ll come up with something new when Phil Kessel learns how to back check or the Leafs win a playoff round which ever comes first!

[F7Firecat]

Sell out another one at the ACC last night.......keep it up it things will never change in leaves land

 

[GBW]

that's a huge fish!

[Rod Caster]

At least they are better than the oilers...talk about a team that has trouble rebuilding.

 

Remember the oilers cup run a couple years ago? They sucked all season, then BAM! they are in the playoffs and picking off teams...reminds me of how the Habs sucked last year then managed, some friggen how, to beat good teams. They still suck in my opinion but Gionta is doing a great job as a leader and Price, to the relief or disgust or the Habs fans (who knows with them), is playing all star hockey.

 

Disclaimer: Go Coyotes Go

 

 

bahahahahaha les Oilers gagnent!!!

Edited December 2, 2010 by Rod Caster

[jediangler]

It wouldn't matter if the Leafs had all the draft picks in the first round. They would pick bad players or pick good players and make them bad by forcing that jersey on them. You know they passed on Tyler Myers for Luke Schenn? They passed twice on Milan Lucic and picked Tlusty and Kulemin instead. Lucic has more goals and points than Ke$$el by the way. Seguin scored tonight in Boston's 3-0 win over the Flyers and Thomas set an NHL record by being the first goalie in history to win his first 9 road games. Thanks again for that lottery pick in June 2011.

[Chance]

It wouldn't matter if the Leafs had all the draft picks in the first round. They would pick bad players or pick good players and make them bad by forcing that jersey on them. You know they passed on Tyler Myers for Luke Schenn? They passed twice on Milan Lucic and picked Tlusty and Kulemin instead. Lucic has more goals and points than Ke$$el by the way. Seguin scored tonight in Boston's 3-0 win over the Flyers and Thomas set an NHL record by being the first goalie in history to win his first 9 road games. Thanks again for that lottery pick in June 2011.

 

 

The Leafs could win a cup and I am sure you would find fault somewhere.I just find myself wondering why you care so much??

Listing who teams have passed on is silly as EVERY team has made bad choices in the past. Lidstrom 53rd..Datsyuk 171st...Zetterberg 210th..

Edited December 2, 2010 by Chance

[John Bacon]

Presumably they'll enjoy the same level of success as the Blue Jays since being bought by Rogers.....oh wait.

 

That would be an improvement... the Jays aren't that bad.

[jedimaster]

Whens the last time the Jays made the playoffs?

[John Bacon]

Whens the last time the Jays made the playoffs?

 

1993 - but that is not a fair comparison; the Jays have finished in the top 16 since then; unlike hockey that doesn't get you in the play offs. The Jays do have season where they win more games then the lose. The Leafs haven't done that in a while.

[daryl0815]

Clearly the Leafs are back at it again tonight, 3-0 now, after Edmonton scored with like 2 seconds left!

 

It is really unbeleafable how bad this team is playing right now, they have a few half decent players, they shouldnt be this bad.

 

I think at some point you have to look to the coaching staff and start to ask the tough questions!

[craigdritchie]

Keep buying those jerseys and hats .......

[muddler]

I agree with Dr. Salvelinus. He's pretty accurate. The Toronto media is also at fault here. They NEVER stop trying to fix a Toronto team. Virtually every sports team in Toronto gets way too much negative press. They (the press) always want to air lift a star to Toronto to "fix" the team. I read some of that in this thread too. What do you think the other teams are trying to do to improve thier teams? Give away their star player for nothing? The only way to get better is through the draft and gamble on your picks, then fill in some specialty spots (like a defensive specialist) later. Pressure to improve right away is the Leafs major downfall. Edmonton is doing it right. They are rebuilding and it will pay off in a couple years. It takes time for a team to jell and improve. In Toronto you always have a promise of a winner with the Leafs every fall. We know what happens every year.

 

Edmonto beat Toronto 5-0 today by the way. They must be doing something right.

 

Until the Toronto fans and media accept that it will take time to improve (assuming that the other teams aren't) nothing much will change. They will sell out the games and the die heart Toronto fans will keep cheering. The sweater and stuff will sell by the millions and the owners will make a lot of money. The media will all have those instant solutions and always someone to blame. I lived in Toronto for 33 years and I have heard this every year.

 

The Leafs just don't have the horses to run this race to the finish line. Accept it. Build for 5 years down the road. Look for a positive chage in the years to come not in the days to come. then they'll produce a winner and not a whiner.

 

 

muddler (Boston Fan)

[jediangler]

Our Bruins looked good again tonight Muddler, 8-1 win over Tampa Bay.

[Guest Johnny Bass]

It wouldn't matter if the Leafs had all the draft picks in the first round. They would pick bad players or pick good players and make them bad by forcing that jersey on them. You know they passed on Tyler Myers for Luke Schenn? They passed twice on Milan Lucic and picked Tlusty and Kulemin instead. Lucic has more goals and points than Ke$$el by the way. Seguin scored tonight in Boston's 3-0 win over the Flyers and Thomas set an NHL record by being the first goalie in history to win his first 9 road games. Thanks again for that lottery pick in June 2011.

 

We need a Franchise player and Suguin for sure is not it. Give Kessel the right line mates and watch him go.

 

Seguin is not doin so great. 5 goals? Big deal. How many players in the NHL have 5 goals or more? Plus, like you said? Whose to say we would have picked Seguin? Even if seguin end up scoring 100 goals. Doesn't mean we would have picked them.

 

Maybe we should get the Detroit scouts.Either that or Detroit has a good steroids program. What do you think Stoty? A team that seems to get all these average players that turn out to be stars? Strange hey?

[anders]

We need a Franchise player and Suguin for sure is not it. Give Kessel the right line mates and watch him go.

 

Seguin is not doin so great. 5 goals? Big deal. How many players in the NHL have 5 goals or more? Plus, like you said? Whose to say we would have picked Seguin? Even if seguin end up scoring 100 goals. Doesn't mean we would have picked them.

 

Maybe we should get the Detroit scouts.Either that or Detroit has a good steroids program. What do you think Stoty? A team that seems to get all these average players that turn out to be stars? Strange hey?

 

Really...wow....

 

You are comparing Kessel to a rookie that hasnt even played 30 games yet, and gets maybe 10min/game and plays on some nights with Scott Thornton....Really?

 

I garantee you, if Toronto had the second pick they would have picked Seguin...garanteed, if of course Edmonton didn't take him, and we all know they didn't. You have to give the rookies time to adjust, grow and mature, which is something that looks like Toronto will not be seeing for sometime know, because, like most pro teams they build through the draft...just like Detroit! Toronto is going to be euchered for some time,as they dont have the picks to build a team....muddler said it best!

 

Oh...and its looking like we are getting a top 3 pick again if this keeps up...GO B's!

[Grimace]

You are off comparing Kessel to an eighteen year old in his first year. Kessel's first year he went 11 goals 18 assists for 29 points, all the time playing the wing with no defensive responsibilities. Come on Mr Bass, get a grip. I know you can not blame Kessel for this trade. You can only evaluate him on what he has done compared to what he can do and he is falling short a tad with no line mates. No biggy. It is Burkes failure to evaluate talent and his team that has dug us into this hole.

Edited December 3, 2010 by Grimace

[Grimace]

Let's also not forget Knight who will be a fine NHLer. And of course next years first round pick. This is a brutal time to be a Leafs fan. You say you skipped the last few years watching Johnny? I would wait a few more.