fishnsled Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) A good friend of mine caught this fish on a Kawartha Lake a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't Balsam and it sure looks like a tiger. Just looking for some opinions on the fish and if it is a tiger. The markings would say so but I seem to recall that the tail should have rounded tips. Difficult to tell in the pic but they look pointed to me. What do you think? Tiger or not? If so this could be bad news for another muskie lake in the Kawarthas. I've been asked to keep the name of the lake private and will do so. Edited July 21, 2010 by fishnsled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigdritchie Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Tiger muskie - no question about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexcba Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 could be, but it looks more like a barred musky to me. im no pro on the subject tho. maybe if we had a clear shot of the tail, the paired fins look like they are more pointed rather than round.. cant really tell tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmtcanada Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) I'm not an expert either, but I found a "how to identify pike/muskie/tiger musky" picture on the web... I'd have to agree with alexcba...looks like a barred muskie....and as Will said the rounded tail is a key identifier.... a better tail shot would make it easier to identify. Edited July 21, 2010 by ccmt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdve23rveavwa Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Just looking at the head alone, I would say Tiger for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnsled Posted July 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) I'm not an expert either, but I found a "how to identify pike/muskie/tiger musky" picture on the web... I'd have to agree with alexcba...looks like a barred muskie....and as Will said the rounded tail is a key identifier.... a better tail shot would make it easier to identify. In images you posted Cliff the Barred musky seems to have a "clean" face. Where as the tiger has markings on it's face. A better shot of the tail would have been nice. There was another pic sent but the tail is cut off. Damn photographer! lol! Edited July 21, 2010 by fishnsled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Tiger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 It's a tiger for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvanOwner Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I'd be curious as to what features the posters are picking up on when they definitively say "Tiger".....not doubting, just looking for some free education. Thanks. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Tiger for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverowbotham Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I would say a tiger musky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherpete Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Yep, tiger. I can hear the growl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshS Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Another vote for 100% tiger! Sure are good looking specimens, to bad about their origin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadadude Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Here is a better sign to compare it with. There are several items that need to be verified to make it a hybrid. You can not go by coloration alone. If you do think it is a Hybrid, take a close up of the cheek and also of the submadibular pores. These are very important identifiers. Will, please check your PM's. Cheers, Ron... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnsled Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Will, please check your PM's. Cheers, Ron... Pm's Checked Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 I'd be curious as to what features the posters are picking up on when they definitively say "Tiger".....not doubting, just looking for some free education. Thanks. Dan Years of experience and many mounted during my taxidermy career. The markings do confirm it for me. However, everyone has been known to be wrong in their lives at some point! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucktail Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Im sure the Ministry would be interested in knowing which lake it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Shirley Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Looks a lot like a tiger, but as Ron pointed out, it can be difficult to tell by colouration alone. Hope it isn't a tiger for the sake of the lake, but it may be the future of the Kawarthas unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Why is the lake such a secret? Rice Lake on the east end has the greatest threat to get pike and Cameron Lake on the west is the next lake in line after Balsam (already known to have large tigers). If it's Cameron, it's all down stream from there for the pike, which is the worst scenario for the Kawarthas. If it's in any of the lakes between Rice and Cameron, it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I don't understand the big secret either. If your worried about pike in the lake, set up a kill derby and we'll all come out for a fry I'm going to guess its rice though, just for fun. s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooz Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Not sharing which lake in kawarthas is horrible! Only reason your buddy is not interested in sharing which lake it is, is probably because he likes the pikes in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeytier Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 4 and a half years later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigson Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Just curious, why the concern for these lakes? Just the fact that there are pike in the lake? (If so im guessing they will over run the musky population?) Wouldnt someone have caught pike in these lakes prior to catching the tigers? Or maybe the concern is that if a pike breeds with a musky then that musky doesnt reproduce more musky that year?? Just interested, thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esoxansteel Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 A good friend of mine caught this fish on a Kawartha Lake a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't Balsam and it sure looks like a tiger. Just looking for some opinions on the fish and if it is a tiger. The markings would say so but I seem to recall that the tail should have rounded tips. Difficult to tell in the pic but they look pointed to me. What do you think? Tiger or not? If so this could be bad news for another muskie lake in the Kawarthas. I've been asked to keep the name of the lake private and will do so. Looks like a tiger for sure, but a pore count would verify it for sure, keeping the lake or river system a secret is stupid on your friends part, and its that mentality that is part of the problem, its no secret Pike are in several of the K Lakes with documented Pike and Hybrids coming for Balsam, Cameron, and Pike coming from Sturgeon, Rice, and the Otonabee River south of Lock 19, and im sure there in others, just not populated enough to show up in catches, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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