fishing n autograph Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Curiosity has the best of me and perhaps this topic has been done before but for myself this is a bit hazy...Maybe there are others who would like to know as well? I could be wrong but, Can I not drink a beer, while not under power, and at anchor? If I'm not driving, not over the limit, not under power or mobile. Especially in say a canoe or non motorized water craft? Or a water craft with only an electric motor....is this grounds for DUI? I'm not talking about getting crap faced and operating a boat I'm saying one beer, while at anchor in a non motorized boat. If this is indeed illegal how do the rental house boats get away with being allowed to drink while at anchor? Or any boat parked in a Marina, or anchored in a back bay some were Just curious how that works? Under the criminal code, the vessel has to have kitchen/bath facilities, sleeping areas and cannot be moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greencoachdog Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Here in the States you need a boat with a head /kitchen and berth. Art You are correct Uncle Artie! If you boat doesn't have those 3 requirements you can and will at the very least be charged with violating the "open container" law, the same as driving on the road!!! I'm pretty sure this law applies to most if not all states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillj Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/...0l19_e.htm#BK36 Wow ... I definitely do need to print the statute off and carry it with me ! ... have a look at the exceptions ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLLIWOGG Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 If you don't have a lockable compartment on your boat put a lock on a cooler . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemicropterus Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Interesting fact 60% of all fatalities on the water are alcohol related and these fatalities were from falling overboard while URINATING THEIR LAST ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE!!!! So guys drink up if you want to risk becoming a marshmellow, thats what the rescue people call you after you have been submerged for a few week or so. Hopefully you would pop up to the surface after a day or so from bloating but if it's too deep and real cold water you will not be found possibly, all for a BEER. Hardly seems worth it if you have a wife and kids to come back to. Why not get a really fast boat and get your thrills from that, I know that a 20 minute run at 70 plus mph in my boat is better than any drink I ever had. And speaking of governments that want to treat you like a child, thats what was elected, a legislating liberal agenda meant to label everyone a possible tax cash cow throuygh fines levies and user fees. At least the conservatives let you die first before they introduced legislation to limit each persons personal freedom. I'm OK if you personal freedoms don't infringe on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I had a really fast boat but I found I could buy 10 cases of beer for what I spent on gas on a lazy sunday afternoon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fishnwire Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Interesting fact 60% of all fatalities on the water are alcohol related and these fatalities were from falling overboard while URINATING THEIR LAST ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE!!!! Why not get a really fast boat and get your thrills from that, I know that a 20 minute run at 70 plus mph in my boat is better than any drink I ever had. I'm OK if you personal freedoms don't infringe on mine. I wonder what percentage of fatalities on the water are a result of excessive speeds. I'd feel safer on a body of water full of drunken canoeists than I would if there was one sober guy out there in a speedboat flying around doing 70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookslav Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Ain't that the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemicropterus Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I wonder what percentage of fatalities on the water are a result of excessive speeds. I'd feel safer on a body of water full of drunken canoeists than I would if there was one sober guy out there in a speedboat flying around doing 70. Less than 10% and I was wrong as to the percentage falling overboard it's closer to 75% and 40% of the fatalities invloved alcohol, so there are more drunks out there than we know. And to say I'd rather see a a bunch of drunks out canoeing than a controlled boat going fast driven by an experienced SOBER driver scares me. It's a bass boat just to get the record straight and you'd look good out there surrounded by all those drunken canoeists but you'd probably be spending more of your time pulling them from the water than actually enjoying yourself on the water. Have you ever tried to piss from a canoe when your intoxicated. The water looks awfully deep and cold. You missed my point obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookslav Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Just for the record... There are a lotta points being missed LOL.... (Lots folks are passionate about this one I see) The thread I started refered to "a" Beer in a non motorized boat...not being smashed drunk in a canoe, and trying to pee Thats something different all together, but point taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine5068 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I watched the Canadian Cops show once last year on TV and the OPP were catching everyone in canoes that came around a bend on The Grand River near London Ontario. They took ALL the alcohol, including the unopened ones and dumped it on the ground. One woman started to argue with a cop and say that they were unopened and why would they be pricks like that. That's when the female officer told her that she could also strip search her if she thought she was under the influence of other substances. It was fun to see actually. The guys were WAY more level headed then the mouthy girls. You girls need to smarten up when you're out drunk in public. Too mouthy sometimes. They all got warnings on public drunkenness but also large fines for open liquor in public. That's the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakpiker Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I almost died in a paddleboat a couple of summers ago. They are very tippy with only one person...especially when your drunk buddy sitting on the dock decides to grab a corner. Darn thing flipped over and landed on my head...knocked me cold and gashed me for a dozen stitches. I still remember sinking to the bottom before my friends pulled me out. Sit on top kayaks are much more stable...especially when no beer is in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctranter Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I have had the privilege of having the only cottage on a small-med lake near parry sound for my entire life. Even since slightly before being of legal drinking age, I have enjoyed various quantities of beer out on the water. Legalities are the last thing I'm thinking about while fishing and drinking, but safety is always a concern. I never drink to the point where I put myself or others at risk by driving the boat into a rock or something. The best part is, if officials ever decided to randomly search this needle in a haystack, I could be back on my dock before they parked their truck by the launch. Id love to share the location of the lake with yall, since its the best smallmouth fishing Ive ever seen, it wouldn't be in my best interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerritt Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I have had the privilege of having the only cottage on a small-med lake near parry sound for my entire life. Even since slightly before being of legal drinking age, I have enjoyed various quantities of beer out on the water. Legalities are the last thing I'm thinking about while fishing and drinking, but safety is always a concern. I never drink to the point where I put myself or others at risk by driving the boat into a rock or something. The best part is, if officials ever decided to randomly search this needle in a haystack, I could be back on my dock before they parked their truck by the launch. Id love to share the location of the lake with yall, since its the best smallmouth fishing Ive ever seen, it wouldn't be in my best interest Honestly none of us want to know the lake... seeing as how it is full of intoxicated boaters.... (you) G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLLIWOGG Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 The nobody has died from a paddle boat accident statistic is old but hopefully still true, its the drunken buddy that gets you every time. I have learned my lesson and won't get in a canoe with anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 I watched the Canadian Cops show once last year on TV and the OPP were catching everyone in canoes that came around a bend on The Grand River near London Ontario. That's funny they must have been really hammered to get anywhere near London on the Grand River. Sure you don't mean the Thames River? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smally21 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Just for the record...There are a lotta points being missed LOL.... (Lots folks are passionate about this one I see) The thread I started refered to "a" Beer in a non motorized boat...not being smashed drunk in a canoe, and trying to pee Thats something different all together, but point taken. i think your original question was answered about 71 times, by 27 different people. it seems to be the only point being missed is regardless of how many beers, anchored or not, non motorized or not, crap faced or not, you can't drink beer in yer boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookslav Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 you can't drink beer in yer boat Unless your willing to pay $110 fine and dump your beer out "if" caught of course. You won't loose your license or be charged with DUI for having a casual brew in a canoe, any more then you would sitting in a floating chair or even sitting on the beach, or on the banks in a folding lawn chair for that matter. Its not legal, but then again neither is J walking.... You'll get a fine, but your not going to loose you licence, have your insurance sky rocket, or spend time in jail. A beer in a canoe may end up costing you $110 though...thats an expensive brew I tell ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smally21 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 so let's take a look see here. you said you were looking for info as to could you have a beer in your non motorized boat. after 4 pages of responses and links to the actual govt sites that list the laws that govern the watereways, you are still arguing the case? why ask the question in the first place. it seems like you don't like the answer so you keep going hoping someone is going to say - "drink up cookslav, all those other guys were wrong". no one is telling you your boat will explode if you crack a beer, just that it is illegal - which was your question about 80 posts ago...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookslav Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) so let's take a look see here. you said you were looking for info as to could you have a beer in your non motorized boat. after 4 pages of responses and links to the actual govt sites that list the laws that govern the watereways, you are still arguing the case? why ask the question in the first place. it seems like you don't like the answer so you keep going hoping someone is going to say - "drink up cookslav, all those other guys were wrong". no one is telling you your boat will explode if you crack a beer, just that it is illegal - which was your question about 80 posts ago...... wallbash.gif wallbash.gif Well, It "was" a light hearted discussion but thanks for the Sermon Father smally... Who's arguing? Not me? I'm not saying its legal bud...I get it Just saying its not gonna land anyone in jail. You wanna have a beer in a canoe, then be prepared to pay $110 My appologies for replying in a freindly manner to a post I started Take a valume dude, Edited December 21, 2009 by Cookslav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 You are correct Uncle Artie! If you boat doesn't have those 3 requirements you can and will at the very least be charged with violating the "open container" law, the same as driving on the road!!! I'm pretty sure this law applies to most if not all states. No, not all states...it defers in each an every state with Texas as being by far the most liberal state........ I have fished Ontario for over 30 years with anywhere from 1 to several trips each year.....when I was younger we always had beer in the boat, especially in the afternoon or evening run........now I never have beer in the boat if I am going fishing, HOWEVER, I have had beer each year when I take my wife for a boat ride on the lake we are on that year.....we don't flaunt it or over abuse it be we do enjoy at least a couple beers each on these cruises...If and when I am caught and fined I will stop going to Ontario........hopefully this never comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icedude Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 good thread--was canoeing the Grand River Kitchener area with some buddies from Wilfrid Laurier a few years back same deal--the local Coppers checked EVERYONES coolers at the bridge--poured the booze into the drink and off they went...... one young fella with little respect back talked the Cop---don't have a clue what happened to him--but pretty sure he was read the riot act--lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smally21 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 can i take that valium in a non-motorized boat, say if i was close to shore???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 HOWEVER, I have had beer each year when I take my wife for a boat ride on the lake we are on that year.....we don't flaunt it or over abuse it be we do enjoy at least a couple beers each on these cruises...If and when I am caught and fined I will stop going to Ontario........hopefully this never comes. I have a hard time with your statement "If and when I am caught and fined I will stop going to Ontario" that your basing your decision to continue to come to our province on not being able to break our laws without consequences. My guess with an attitude like that you would most likely skip out the province without paying the fine also. If you knowingly break a law you should be at least ready to pay the piper if caught and fined & not blame anyone but yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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