Canoe2fish Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Hey everyone, I'm looking for advice from experienced 4x4 owners here. I'm looking at a mid sized truck with the capacity to haul/tow on occasion. 8 cylinders are out of the question as this truck will be seeing a ton of highway miles. so far the only definates I'm looking to meet are; -crew cab, -towing capacity - 4000-5000lbs -true 4x4 with hi-low range -6' box (Hauling a sled, ATV, Building supplies etc...5' box is too short(?) -Fuel effieciency during normal everyday driving So far the only thing that looks close is the Nissan Frontier. I know there is the GMC /Chev Canyon/Colorado but the Nissan is sitting better with me with the 1' longer box and higher quality rating. I haven't looked at Toyota yet and I'm not sure I want to get into a Durango. Is there anything I'm missing? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers, C2F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 i would rethink your v8 vs 6 cyl reasoning. if the majority of your driving is on the highway, the v8s typically do as well as the 6 cyls and in some cases better than 6 cyls (esp. when towing) on the highway. they simply don't have to work as hard. in city driving, the v8s will typically be thirstier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhenrygsr Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 How about a Toyota Tacoma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishnwire Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Take a good hard look at the Tacoma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 How about a Toyota Tacoma? Yup, I love my '03 Chevy ZR2 but there is a reason why the Tacoma's hold their value.... Great trucks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canoe2fish Posted August 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Thanks folks. The Tacoma is a sweet truck, but I'm worried the 5' box (No long box available) will be too short to be effective. I hadn't considered full sized trucks that had the variable valves (like the Hemi Dodge)...I'll look into that one. I'm driving a newer F-150 work truck now and just got out of a full sized Silverado. The fuel consumption in the ford is 30% worse...its terrible!! Both base model trucks but the power and economy with the chevy was night and day. Makes me wonder if these fuel ratings are nonsense to begin with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purekgw Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 we have a 5.7 hemi in are truck and it actually saved gas when going up north we use to have a mini van.... truck has variable valves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I asked the dealer at the ford place, where are the 6cyl trucks.He tells me no one wants them any more. WHAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_F Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 No love for the Chevy? Silverado Z71 - 5.3L 6.5' box its got all the bases covered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 No love for the Chevy? Silverado Z71 - 5.3L 6.5' box its got all the bases covered Ford raised,and will die a ford guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) -crew cab,-towing capacity - 4000-5000lbs -true 4x4 with hi-low range -6' box (Hauling a sled, ATV, Building supplies etc...5' box is too short(?) -Fuel effieciency during normal everyday driving Is there anything I'm missing? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers, C2F Well there's always the remaining option of driving a pre '07 Dodge with a 5.9 Cummins. I've got the Quad cab, big enough for adults that don't need a reclining rear sofa, 4x4 with 2H/4H/4L non electric shift, 6 1/2' box, and, 4-5000 lb towing capacity , I think you could probably hitch Brians Ford on with the 4-5K and still not really notice it and, it still gets around 23mpg empty and around 18-19 with a 22' travel trailer behind it. I guess Brian would get a bit of a free ride.. Edited August 11, 2009 by Fisherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Get a V8. I've got V6 mid-size 4x4 truck that noone seems to like. My only regret is the engine size, better power and mileage from the V8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 think you could probably hitch Brians Ford on with the 4-5K and still not really notice it and, it still gets around 23mpg empty and around 18-19 with a 22' travel trailer behind it. I guess Brian would get a bit of a free ride.. To think I called you friend.LOL I must admit,Im looking again and looks like an 8cyl will be what Im forced to buy. Question is,2x4/4x4 and new or used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canoe2fish Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Thanks guys. I'll be comparing the fuel economies in the small 8cyls over the 6s to see if it is really worth it. I like this Ford, but I wouldn't buy one. Again the power and economy are night and day poorer than the chevy was. I used to go a week and a half on one tank, now its virtually 1 week bang on. And we are comparing apples to apples here. This truck has to be a combination of work and play so real operating costs need to be weighed out carefully. Does anyone other than Dodge offer variable valve timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 GM has it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishnwire Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I asked the dealer at the ford place, where are the 6cyl trucks.He tells me no one wants them any more. WHAT? "no one wants those anymore" means "we're all out of those, but we've got a lot full of something else which my boss wants me to push" in dealer-speak. The dealer thinks you're going to be swayed based on the "fact" that what you would prefer to purchase is considered unpopular amongst consumers. If 6 cylinders were unwanted, then the lot would be full of them, not 8s. I would have told the dealer, "I don't know about what other people want nowadays, but I want a six banger. Can you sell me one or should I look elsewhere?" A dealer at Toyota was trying to sell me a new car, when I asked about 2-4 year old used cars, he said, "I wouldn't even look at those...they're not safe, barely road-worthy." I asked him, "So if I buy a new Toyota off you today, it will be unsafe for the road in 2-4 years?" It was one of the few times I ever say a salseman speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I have had 4X4 Fords and GM's and the best advice I can give you now is take a LONG and HARD look at the Toyota Tundra's. This is one REFINED SOLID truck.......you have your choice of the small V8 (4.7) or the Big Boy V8 (5.7) with it's 6 speed double overdrive tranny. If you are serious about towing 4-5K then you will be making a huge mistake getting any V6 engine. At least check out this Tundra site while your still looking. http://www.toyota.com/tundra/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranks bait Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Honda Ridgeline falls almost into this catagory. The only downfall is the 5 foot bed. Although I have had two xr 200 dirtbikes in the back no problem. Have also had the occasional sheet of plywood in the back, but not much. The tow hook and bed hooks make it easy to secure. Just got into my second one (leased) It's easy for me to say this is the perfect "pretend" truck for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wask Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Thanks guys. I'll be comparing the fuel economies in the small 8cyls over the 6s to see if it is really worth it. I like this Ford, but I wouldn't buy one. Again the power and economy are night and day poorer than the chevy was. I used to go a week and a half on one tank, now its virtually 1 week bang on. And we are comparing apples to apples here. What motor is in the F150. The 4.6 (which I own) is not as good on mileage or power as the 5.4. I bought used and the price was right so I didn't have much choice, but the 5.4 has a lot of guts and the mileage is slightly better as well. Ford raised,and will die a ford guy. Amen Brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I have had 4X4 Fords and GM's and the best advice I can give you now is take a LONG and HARD look at the Toyota Tundra's. This is one REFINED SOLID truck.......you have your choice of the small V8 (4.7) or the Big Boy V8 (5.7) with it's 6 speed double overdrive tranny. If you are serious about towing 4-5K then you will be making a huge mistake getting any V6 engine. At least check out this Tundra site while your still looking. http://www.toyota.com/tundra/ Better look at the canadian site for prices Tundra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Better look at the canadian site for prices Buddy at work, bought his Tundra stateside last year. Made good,but now it,s an even board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybo Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Maxda has the truck your looking for. This one good little truck. It will do what you need and then some. I don't think I have ever heard any thing bad about this little truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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