Cudz Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 I have a few more pics and some bigger ones as well but these were taken 2 minutes after it went through. Apparently it is still there and they are unable to get it out. It is not sitting on the bottom but on another sheet of ice. They are worried it is going to sink. Everyday it is out there he is being fined. Apparently the whole salvage is going to cost (with fines) in the neighbourhood of $30K. Seems a bit steep but that is what I was told. Be careful out there.
JeffBornFishin Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 A hard lesson for sure. I am a firm (pardon the pun ) believer that if you don't know what you are doing out there you have no business operating a vehicle on the ice.
12footspringbok Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Thats crazy for sure....Seeing as i had my ram 1500 Quad cab out there sunday and today. Mind you i only drove where plent of other trucks, vans, and cars had already been out and i didn't cross any pressure cracks out there! Ice was creaking like crazy out there today though under my truck too kinda made me nervous....
e-z-out Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 30K thats crazy and it's still there. I feel for the guy i truly do.
cram Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 that's a lot of money. Don't they just need another truck (on good ice) to pull it out? I could understand if lifting from the bottom, but that looks a lot easier than 30k....
irishfield Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 I don't understand it still being there. A small tow truck and an ice anchor and it would have been out.. before it froze in. Even an A frame to get some angle advantage and a 2 ton winch.
BassAsin Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 i have to go down to simcoe tomorrow and pull a truck out! maybe 2!
Cudz Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) apparently ice around it was too unstable? I believe the issue is that it is sitting on the sheet of ice that has sunk. IT is much deeper in that spot than it looks but it is sitting on a half-sunk sheet of ice. They were contemplating putting a steel beam through the windowso that if it slips off the ice it won't sink. Not too sure exactly what is going on. Edited February 17, 2009 by Cudz
nancur373 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 A hard lesson for sure. I am a firm (pardon the pun ) believer that if you don't know what you are doing out there you have no business operating a vehicle on the ice. So tell us how YOU do it. Do you drill holes every ten feet? Give me a break. Crap happens. Ccurt
Mattones Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Wont ever catch me being in a car on ice. ever. I'll walk that 1-2kms.
scuro2 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Looks like a nice jeep. At least they got out.
brifishrgy Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 What kind of fine do they get for parking "in " the ice ???
Cudz Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 What kind of fine do they get for parking "in " the ice ??? Environmental damage fine.
irishfield Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Yet marinas spill gallons of gas in the water every day filling boats. That things not deep enough for either the fuel tank or engine oil to be discharged by (heavier specific gravity) water. Sunk boats at docks cause more damage than that thing is right now.
Cudz Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Posted February 17, 2009 How far out from shore are they? Joey About 200m off shore over 40 ft of water.
lunkerbasshunter Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 i wonder if you called caa if they would help, may be alot cheaper then the 30k some are saying it will cost to get it out cheers!
love2fishhave2work Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 While I enjoy fishing as much as most on this board, it still baffles the mind that people drive $40,000 vehicles on any ice regardless of thickness and risk $30,000 salvage fees in the hopes of catching a few perch or whitefish. Every year these pictures are posted but yet somehow, the lure of the mighty perch is greater for some than common sense.
BassAsin Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 While I enjoy fishing as much as most on this board, it still baffles the mind that people drive $40,000 vehicles on any ice regardless of thickness and risk $30,000 salvage fees in the hopes of catching a few perch or whitefish. Every year these pictures are posted but yet somehow, the lure of the mighty perch is greater for some than common sense. Insurance!
Big Cliff Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 The cost of clean up can be really high! Our neighbour had a fuel oil leak: The bill to date for the clean up (because he has waterfront property) is in excess of $1.2 Million and still climbing, it has been 2 years and the clean up is still going on. It was only a 250 gal tank and leaked into the ground about 150' away from the water! The marina a couple of doors down was going to put in a new gas tank: Cost $50 K for a containment system in case there was ever a leak + all new tanks and equipment + only people that could serve fuel had to take a course @$1000.00 ea. They couldn't afford to put it in. The rules and laws are getting stricter all the time and the fines? I don't know what they are now but I'll bet they are high!
Roy Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 The amount of the fine is determined by and inversely proportional to the number of people you have in the "lobby", Cliff.
POLLIWOGG Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Guys laugh at me when I tell them they shouldn't be dumping 90 lb of salt on the boat ramp. The fine is two hundred thousand dollars.
web-fisherman Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 OK - I'm assuming the picture was taken the day of the accident. Just looking at the ice in the picture I could tell you it was not going to be safe (or iffy) Do you agree? Look at the brite side 1. No one got hurt! 2. Think of the structure this will make when it finally sinks! We should tell him to roll down all of the window and throw some saplings in there.
irishfield Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) OK - I'm assuming the picture was taken the day of the accident. Just looking at the ice in the picture I could tell you it was not going to be safe (or iffy) Do you agree? NO.. we were out there in a van Saturday....ice was perfectly safe (as ice can be). Some pressure cracks were getting questionable when we came back in and some refreeze spots looked iffy so you just don't drive on them. Looks like he drove into a pressure crack area where the ice got pushed down (what he's sitting on) and it refroze above it.. but not solid. He went thru the refreeze and is sitting on the original ice (that is most likely over 14 inches thick.) Edited February 17, 2009 by irishfield
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