Photoz Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 After rumours, stories, speculation & other innuendoes, a reasonable-sounding report is finally out, concerning last summer's carp die-off in the Kawarthas. For what it's worth . . . . . . Fri, May 9, 2008 New virus fells fish. Carp safe to eat despite die-off By JAMES NEELEY, SUN MEDIA PETERBOROUGH -- A fish virus new to Ontario has been identified as one cause of the carp die-off that littered area lakes with 12,000 to 24,000 fish last summer. John Cooper, of the Lake Erie management unit for the ministry of natural resources, said extensive testing by the University of Guelph and federal fish health labs confirmed finding a new fish virus in Ontario -- the koi herpesvirus. The MNR previously identified a bacteria, columnaris, as the cause but now say the new virus also killed fish. The koi herpesvirus, first found in North America in 1999, was discovered in two fish collected from Scugog and Pigeon lakes last year, Cooper said. It only affects carp, goldfish and koi, he said, and is not a danger to humans, "because it can't live in a body as warm as a human." Carp infected with koi herpesvirus are safe to eat and handle, he said. Last year's die-off also will not threaten carp counts for this season, Cooper said. "Carp are a prolific fish that can quickly bounce back from a die-off," he said. There is no evidence the 2007 carp die-off was caused by a contaminant spill, Cooper said. Trying to determine what caused last summer's carp kill took extensive testing, Cooper said, noting autopsies don't work on fish. "Once they are dead the natural process may mask the cause," he said. "We have to get the fish alive and transport to the lab as quickly as possible." Sounds plausable to me . . . . I wonder how long they'd have taken to come up with a report had the die-off hit bass . . . . pickerel . . . . . muskies? Ah h h h h . . . . . there won't be much fishing pressure on ANYTHING more than about 100 klicks of the city this year . . . . nobody will be able to afford gas. Any provisions on any boats to deck 'em out with sails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greencoachdog Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Carp are a VERY resilient breed, and I don't believe you could kill them all even if you wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbo Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Why I luv my Kayak.. What I save on fuel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmtcanada Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Yep, this sounds plausible for sure! Much better than the columnaris thing....since they didn't find any in Scugog carp. Thanks for the update Photoz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 From my understanding, this virus has already spread across Lake Erie, Niagara region, Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence. I remember reading about KHV in the newspaper in 2001 when all the areas mentioned above were affected resulting in massive carp die-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 You must have sissey carp up there, ours bounce off boats and don`t die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckhead Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 ^ hahaha - Our Carp are a little too limp wristed up here. Must be all the "pride". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) Ewwww....herpes. I thought that only affected suckers. Edited May 9, 2008 by reefrunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Thanks for the update Steve, good to know that they'll fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucktail Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Worse ..... carp herpes!!!!! Can you imagine the cold sore on an old cougar carp!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clampet Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Safe to eat? I suppose if you were on Survivor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoorguy61 Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I thought it was VHS being the likely cylprit. Interesting to read. outdoorguy61 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 One of the rules to being a politician is: The longer you mak'em wait, the more time you have to develop and practice a believable answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 One of the rules to being a politician is: The longer you mak'em wait, the more time you have to develop and practice a believable answer. I think you should have substituted the work LIE for the word answer Bud. At least that would fit better down here now that we have the political race going on..... Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast-Away Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Interesting, you wouldn't want to put a carp into your backyard fish pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highdrifter Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 We need some bucket biologists to manufacture this virus... in vast quantities! Frankly, I'm not sure what's grosser, a french carp or carg herpes... They're both nasty and don't belong in our waterways.. They're more of a nuisance than anything else. cheers HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthesteelhead Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Who said you would want to eat these fish anyway! Yum Yum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhook Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Glad they are safe to eat Signed, the white bucket mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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