OhioFisherman

Great pictures! Nice fish!

Just my overall view that somewhere along the line the system fell apart and I am really not sure what is the cause. Things seemed a lot more comfortable in the 60`s and early 70`s with the cash we were making and the prices we were paying. Even though there were more unions here at the time their seemed to be less grief, more strikes though. People just seem to get bent out of shape easily now. Maybe myself too? Glad work is over for me, the politics of the work place got old. Did want to try something else though, a new challenge! Now walking is my challenge!

Nice fish!

LOL Cook, I was a UAW member for a short period of time (in a box factory). Most of the time a Teamster, I don`t disagree there were abuses, on both sides. Nazi Germany is a stretch, people that didn`t follow the leader there were dead. I do question some of the high achievers though, all at once they are worth 300 times their employeed pay instead of 30? For poor decisions? The doctors pay is also sort of a different issue, very hard to tell if your getting your monies worth, for me there were questions. But in my opinion a better system up there. The auto companies (American) in my opinion haven`t done a good job designing or building cars, no one to blame but themselves, but I have never owned a foreign car, and only two new ones. Not a priority for me. The idea has been for each generation to have a better life than the last, we elect our politicians considering that, (allegedly?) They seem to be giving it away to other countries at our expense. If managements pay can rise through the workers efforts, shouldn`t the workers? and for blame to be fixed on solely the workers? Grieved? LOL the management and union agree on what jobs are deemed union jobs? Union workers are expected to follow the agreement? I know what you mean though. Tough call on that, I had some foremen working right along side me at times, others understood because of their past behavior they were in a management position. Don`t expect me to overlook things if you want to micro-manage me. I passed on management positions, I thought some people were idiots, on both sides.

Just different life experiences with union and non-union membership Brian. If you take a look at the links, most right to work states here are former slave states, some western states. Kind of a mirror image of the states McCain won in the presidential election. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/ We can disagree and still remain civil!

When the white bucket doubles as a port-a-potty? When you can no longer stand in the boat? and need to take naps on a fishing trip? When someone else has to carry your tackle bag? The rods double as canes? When the young old guys have to take your fish off the hook, cause the dang sheephead don`t have enough class to fall off?

Northern Pike 41 inches, Pointe Au Baril Walleye 28 inches, Pointe Au Baril Largemouth 22 inches, a lot of them in a lot of different places, darn things were much harder to find on tournament days. Smallmouth 22 inches, Lake Erie, none that size in a tournament either. Steelhead, maybe six pounds, dinner.

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Castaway, over time pay, some sacrifices involved, you could work 7 days a week, 12 hours a day, pull double shifts. Nothing like feeding the machine for twice as long? You got to give up free time activities to secure your future. Auto companies had a different retirement plan than the Teamster`s both had 30 and out plans. Auto company workers took pay increases, and larger ones than the Teamster workers asked for. Our pension plans were also different, theirs run by the companies, ours run by our union. Auto workers got 3000 a month, but when they reached an age that social security kicked in the companies reduced their pension by the amount they received from social security. The Teamster workers paid in more overall and ours doesn`t reduce when we receive social security. Their were some changes made to ours shortly after I retired, but because I was already retired they don`t affect me. There were years when I made 60+k a year, didn`t get to do much else, planning for retirement. We also had an option to have pay deducted and put into a 401k, ask me why I am glad I didn`t. Paid off the house and debt instead. Between payroll deductions for social security, and money paid by the company instead of wages into the Teamsters retirement program it was around 350 bucks a week. Companies match of social security included. Most people here complain about our social security program and have no real understanding of how it works. Take a look at our stock market and the 401k plans, if you were planning on retiring from one of them any time soon you probably don`t feel to secure.

You can get hydraulic fluid from a TSC store if there is one near you. No model numbers stamped on it anywhere? Probably any auto parts store or tractor dealer. http://answers.canadiantire.ca/answers/904...P/questions.htm Might help?

"I suppose by the same logic the doctor shortage, and state of our health care must be the fact we pay our doctors to much right?" The problem with your doctor shortage is simple, US, as in USA, and the logic similar. Why stay in a country when you can cross a near by border and make more. Your government doesn`t prevent it, ours certainly won`t. Similar logic as free trade, why do it here when we can do it there but for less? but in reverse, how can you possibly expect to keep doctors? The same logic with jobs, if it can be done somewhere else cheaper they might all go away. My sons orthopedic for his knee injury was a doctor from Southern Ontario. If you studied anything about the auto companies history they had trouble keeping help, a boring job and a turnover rate approaching 50%, it took a decent pay check to get people to stay. Forgotten in this discussion is inflation`s effect, I started with the Teamsters in May of 73 making 5.99 and hour, you could get a brand new van for 3100 bucks and a new house for 28,000. Average worker has seen an overall loss in purchasing power and isn`t smart enough to know it or can do nothing about it. Through out my career as a Teamster my pay just went up a little over 3 times what it was at the start. Still decent money, but to see someone that was in management`s pay go up at a much higher rate than the average worker over the same period? Because he could con you he was worth more? Not many have shown it to me. Sure if the auto companies restarted with new employees at a 25 percent pay cut they would get help, 20 bucks an hour is better than 10 or minimum wage. Not everyone wants to run a company, be a doctor or a lawyer, attend college for 4 to 8 years, does that make them stupid? The old saying too many cooks? Too much competition in your field will make you easily replaceable, and for less money.

The cities of Philadelphia Pa, Atlanta Ga, and Phoenix Az are now talking about jumping on the bail out band wagon and others are soon to follow. Retail sales have faced their largest decline on record. Like one in 6 Americans with a home mortgage now owes more on the home than it is worth, a staggering figure, and enough blame for every one involved. The life styles of the rich and famous usually only works if you are, a more conservative approach to personal finance is usually a better deal for the average person, a lot of them forgot. America was basically built on jobs, ones that pay fairly well. I feel for our incoming President, he has been left a mess with no easy way out. The most important jobs in the country, running it, 435 house members, 100 senators, a prez and some extra help, none are paid what these CEOs are paid! A shell game, boost profits now, even if they are not sustainable, not good for the overall health of your company, or the country. You get a golden parachute, every one else gets an empty bag. Some of the people running the country have also been asleep on the job. The problem with being a world leader is others have a tendency to follow, even if it is the wrong road. With no good paying jobs for the masses the house of cards comes crashing down. This has been building here since the 60`s, the push for cheap labor to boost the perks for the execs, they forgot the most important part of the machine, the people, the wheels, the ride can`t move with out them. Now all these clowns want the people to pay for a tow.

I was a Union worker all my adult life, different industry, Trucking though. The auto companies (Exec`s) lobbied for years to block increases in the mileage standards it wasn`t in their interest to produce smaller cars with better gas mileage. Make 6000 per copy selling a SUV or 500 selling a caviler? They took money they could have used to upgrade their plants and built new plants overseas. What is going to work better a 60 year old plant or a new one? The executives had no problem raising the own pay and perks while all of this was going on, instant millionaires and the appointed their buddies who would back them to the boards. Congress here in the states sat back and did nothing, no stronger consumer protection laws to protect the buyer from faulty or poorly designed cars. No stopping the push for bigger fuel hogs, even after the fuel shortage problems of the last 30+ years. 1 in 10 jobs here is estimated to be auto industry related, think the economy is bad now? Allow those plants to close! Allow those people not to have an income to keep the economy running. Unions to blame? I don`t see it that way, greed. The execs want to raise their pay, American workers are among the most productive in the world, slave labor, breaking unions to cover their mistake allows them to keep raking in the cash. Granted the foreign auto makers here in the states pay a decent wage, but who set the standard? will it continue when or if US auto makers are gone? Is there a reason an Auto company exec now makes 30 times what they used to? When their employee`s pay has only gone up 4 times in the same period? Sure can`t be because they know what they are doing. 4.6 million dollar yearly retirement for a failed exec? A union is the voice of the people, with out them all the politicians hear is the employers lobbyists. Certainly not down with all of some unions moves, but just as certainly not down with the moves of employers and politicians! How do you call free trade fair? A bribe to a politician in China, Mexico, India allows you do what you want, pay what you want? Why do you think industry keeps pushing for more immigration? Flood the market with lower paid foreign workers! It drives down every ones wages! People have stopped buying Detroit iron, more the exec`s, politicians fault than the auto workers. Still haven`t seen a car I would pay 20 grand for, and never owned a foreign car. 100 years or so of making cars in America and the can`t get an intake manifold or head gasket right? Not the auto workers fault, you do what the tell you to do. The Chevy Volt save GM? not at 40 grand a pop, nobody will have jobs to buy them. Would you like fries with that?

Bags for a long time now, and a backpack when I used to walk into fishing spots. Putting a bag or backpack on your shoulder or back leaves a hand free. Bags were just more convenient, you can load different boxes and just plug them in the bag.

Steve http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimps...query=magnetic+ just a place to view different opinions.

Photoz, I suffered a third degree sprain of my right ankle in 1999, I missed 7 months of work (some light duty time no walking or standing). Towards the end the Orthopedic doc I was seeing gave me an ankle brace with the magnets inside, it made no difference, just took some more time for it to improve. Doc was a good one, I had seen him for a back injury in 94 and he got me thru that without getting cut. For the ankle? he told me from the start it would have been easier if I had broke it. When I was still working in late 2002 early 2003 it would still swell up after 12- 14 hours of work. No problems now, being on my feet now lasts about 5 minutes.

Congrats Barack! Remember to thank GWB! He worked 8 years so you could win!

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Rich, the Black river on this side of Lake Erie I have caught steelhead around the break walls at the mouth of the river, but never in the river itself. It is deep (up to 35 feet) wide and not wading water. No idea why we don`t see them in the river itself, smallies, largemouth, panfish though. Funny though, also caught largemouth around the breakwalls 20 feet down with the smallies. Dumb fish!

Never had a boat except the cruiser with a speedometer, idling worked on that for walleye, smallmouth, sheephead, white bass, an occasional perch on Lake Erie. On the smaller boats, tiller or console idling to slow, using the electric speeds 1 to 4. Haven`t trolled much over the last 20 years or so but it can be very effective.

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Caught a lot of fish before I got an electric motor, graphite rod, ugly stick, depth finder, Rapala, zebco reel. 1. Mitchell 300 reel 2. plastic worm 3. for me Stren line, original

LOL Fisherman, when I met my wife all I had in the house was a 13 inch black and white tv. She was sort of shocked, I told her you think I sit here and watch tv? My house is sort of modest, but paid for, after 18 years I even have a porch! LOL Never let your eyes get bigger than your paycheck.

No offense to me stuff happens! 1 in 5 Americans now owes more on their home than it is worth. Homes weren`t meant to be piggy banks, no matter what the bankers tell you. An investment you try to keep! Poor choices made in borrowing and lending. The way jobs are disappearing here I see no quick fix.

Pretty sure it was a chevy engine, a lot of them were around and seemed to be a pretty decent mid-sized engine and drive.