OhioFisherman

Have a great and safe Holiday season!

Although I have never done business with the folks that run this site http://www.thinksweb.com/dlures/lureheads.html They offer an Erie series tube head with a 5/0 hook, we always made our own, not to hard to put a dremel bit in a drill press and open up the slots to accept a slightly larger hook. Seen others around with a 5/0 hook but it`s been a while since I had to look and don`t remember the manufacturer. 3/0 - 4/0 was fine for playing around on Erie most of the time, tournament day with big fish located a 5/0 might be the way to go. Never had much of a problem landing them on 4/0 or even 3/0, finding them on tournament day another story. Mustad 32746BLN were fine for fun fishing, tournament day a Gammie 604, just a stronger hook. Tough bite days I have mixed it up in the past, from 1 1/2 -2 inch crappie sized tubes to 5 inch tubes, for me to slap on a 5 inch tube was unusual.

I used a lot of different brands, never really noticed a difference with the brands. From a cost stand point the Dominator house brand sold by Jann`s NetCraft http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/netcraft-dominator-baits/ always worked for me. Quality tubes at a decent price, I used to buy 3-4 hundred a year. They don`t have a lot of colors but the ones they do carry seem to work well, I would buy other colors I wanted from some other places. I like them with heavy salt and garlic, but it`s not hard to throw more into the bags, better though when it`s molded in.

Also had some real good days with the original floater. anywhere from the 2 inch ones to 7 inch ones. They make a good lure that seems to work well.

RV dealers were getting hit hard here, I would imagine the same with boat dealers. If your unsure about the economy toy buying is usually the first thing to stop? Most people don`t need a boat for work, and a used one can be a carry over till things turn around? Better to do with out the debt? Some info: (InvesTrend Via Acquire Media NewsEdge) October 10, 2008 (FinancialWire) -- Boatmaker Brunswick Corp. (NYSE: BC) said that it will cut 1,400 more jobs as the company shuts four plants and furloughs workers at three more, as boat sales slump to near-record levels. The manufacturer's stock plunged to an 18-year low, as it slashed more than a third of its marine work force since the beginning of the year, prompted by worsening financial conditions, including rising oil prices and frozen credit markets. The company said that in July and August, industrywide sales of fiberglass boats fell 40 percent while sales of aluminum boats dropped 21 percent and Brunswick also said that September declines were likely to be worse. Brunswick plans to permanently close plants in Pipestone, Minn., Roseburg, Ore., and Arlington, Wash., while monthballing another facility in Navassa, N.C. The closures will be completed by the first quarter of 2009. When the cuts are complete, the company will have closed more than 40 percent of the boat plants it operated in 2006. Meanwhile, employees at three other facilities near Knoxville, Tenn. will be furloughed beginning October 27 through the end of the year. Shares of Brunswick fell $1.88, or 18.8 percent, to close at $8.12

I used braided Dacron line years ago on baitcaster but for like the last 40 years Mono. Depending on reel size and purpose 10 to 20 pound test. Older Abu`s wouldn`t handle 10# it would get between the spool and side plate, 12# wouldn`t. Shimano had a different spool design with closer tolerences, 10# worked fine on them. A lot of it is time using them it can get to be automatic.

LOL More talk less fighting is always a good thing? Fiscal conservative, social moderate. Happy Holidays!

Don`t know which way you go down there Cudz, another storm is supposed to be hitting east of here, my daughter is supposed to be flying in Saturday evening from Rhode Island and is worried about airport closings and delays.

Furburgers! Never hit anything at 140mph and wouldn`t want to see the result if I had. The poles do look like a picket fence.

Freezing rain, sleet, most of the schools are closed and driving is headed downhill, don`t know if it`s headed your way.

Bluegill, Perch, Crappie, Walleye, Catfish, Steelhead, Halibut, Shark, Tipalia, Orange Roughy, all were good, just not much of a fish eater or keeper, well sardines, tuna, and salmon out of a can. And McFish.

All you can do is keep your chin covered and try to roll with the punches, stuff happens, deal with it the best you can and learn from the experience. GWB throwing around the D word today, don`t know if his financial moves are working, Wall Street and the banking industry seems more intent on guaranteeing their own pay day.

Dang! We had 3 people get tickets last week for going the wrong way around the one way traffic circle! Maybe they think the arrows mean deer hunters?

Way to many to list and being older I can remember when a lot more songs crossed the record charts, pop country rocknroll. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfQUlyxNjU4...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhxlwYvF7xQ...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cswkEL1O4Hk

LOL Leechman, funny songs. Also two does checked in with antlers, and one moron checking a deer in with the wrong tag, when the check in attendant mentioned it to him he grabbed his paper work bag and drove off, must have done something questionable? Check in around here is the bait store at the corner of my street, seen some big deer there in the past.

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/news/jan01/0108...90/Default.aspx LOL not what I call "nice rack"! Found it while looking for a picture of a 22-26 point one shot near me.

LOL Brian, as long as there are 2 guys on the planet there is a chance for a fight? Me I just debate too old and sick to fight! Good luck with a new career jedi!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBkrAESUbyI...feature=related And this from FactCheck.org December 11, 2008 Q: Do auto workers really make more than $70 per hour? How much does a UAW member make at a domestic auto plant? Various sites have cited the figure at an average of seventy-three dollars an hour (The Heritage Foundation). Keith Olbermann says that the figure is actually at twenty-eight before benefits, which only add ten dollars to the amount. Other sources indicate that Toyota workers (who are not unionized) made more last year after profit sharing was calculated. So clear it up for us. What's the real bottom line? A: No. That figure is derived from what the auto companies pay in wages, health, retirement and other benefits, and includes the cost of providing benefits to retirees. A report from the conservative Heritage Foundation, opposing the auto industry bailout, said that members of the United Auto Workers union "earn $75 an hour in wages and benefits – almost triple the earnings of the average private sector worker." Later in the report, it's phrased this way: "The vast majority of UAW workers in Detroit today still earn $75 an hour." That figure has caught hold with some conservatives, and it seeps into media coverage from time to time as well. A few examples: At a Nov. 19 House Financial Services Committee hearing on a possible bailout for the auto industry, Alabama Republican Rep. Spencer Bachus said, "Even with recent changes, the average hourly wage at General Motors is still $75 an hour. ..." Two of his GOP colleagues on the panel made similar statements. And in a Nov. 18 column in the New York Times, business reporter Andrew Ross Sorkin wrote, "At GM, as of 2007, the average worker was paid about $70 an hour, including health care and pension costs." The problem is, that's just not true. The automakers say that the average wage earned by its unionized workers is about $29 per hour. So how does that climb to more than $70? Add in benefits: life insurance, health care, pension and so on. But not just the benefits that the current workers actually receive – after all, it's pretty rare for the value of a benefits package to add up to more than wages paid, even with a really, really good health plan in place. What's causing the number to balloon is the cost of providing benefits to tens of thousands of retired auto workers and their surviving spouses. The automakers arrived at the $70+ figure by adding up all the costs associated with providing wages and benefits to current and retired workers and dividing the total by the number of hours worked by current employees. Labor Costs Aren't the Same as Wages Earned The result is the per-hour labor cost to the automakers, which is very different from "pay" or "wages" or even "wages and benefits" earned by their workers. As David Leonhardt pointed out in the New York Times (countering, in a sense, the earlier piece by Sorkin), the average GM, Ford and Chrysler worker receives compensation – wages, bonuses, overtime and paid time off – of about $40 an hour. Add in benefits such as health insurance and pensions and you get to about $55. Another $15 or so in benefits to retirees (known as "legacy costs") brings the number to roughly $70. That last figure accounts for the biggest difference between labor costs of the Big Two and a Half and those of the "transplants," as foreign carmakers with manufacturing facilities on U.S. soil are called. Ford, in material it submitted to Congress for hearings this month (see "Congressional Submission Appendix (PPT)"), estimated the transplants' legacy costs at about $3 per hour, a number that has less to do with the level of benefits paid than it does with the fact that the transplants don't have many retirees yet, according to economist Kristin Dziczek of the Center for Automotive Research. The Ford chart also estimates that, as a result of a historic 2007 labor agreement with the UAW, the legacy costs of the U.S. automakers are expected to fall – to about $3 per hour. That's because the deal calls for a new voluntary employee beneficiary association (or VEBA), a seldom-used 100-year-old tax loophole. A VEBA is a tax-exempt trust that can be used to fund almost any sort of employee benefit, but they are most commonly used to pay for health care expenses. In an innovative twist, the UAW and Detroit negotiated a VEBA to cover the health care expenses of retired autoworkers. Under the terms of the agreement, GM, Ford and Chrysler were to contribute $30 billion, $13 billion and $9 billion, respectively, to a trust fund to be managed by the union. The UAW would then use the income from the VEBA to cover retiree medical expenses. The agreement would protect retirees’ health care benefits in the event of company bankruptcy, while allowing the automakers to shed the bulk of their legacy costs. When the new agreement is fully implemented, which should happen in 2010, the U.S. automakers would still bear labor costs of about $9 per hour more than Toyota, but that's far better than the current gap. The 2007 agreement also calls for a new two-tier wage structure and other concessions from workers. As for whether Toyota workers earn more than employees of U.S. domestic automakers: In 2006, at Toyota's Georgetown, Ky., plant, workers averaged more in base pay and bonuses than UAW members at Ford, General Motors and Daimler Chrylser, according to the Detroit Free Press. The difference was due to profit-sharing bonuses; Detroit's workers aren't getting many of those these days because, well, there's really nothing to share. The transplants don't give out much data, however, so it's hard to tell if this pattern is continuing or even if it applied to all Toyota plants in 2006. A final note on all this: Labor costs only account for about 10 percent of the cost of producing a vehicle. And it's not the cost of American cars that people complain about; they're already often thousands of dollars less than their Japanese counterparts. Whatever changes may be made in the carmakers' labor agreements, we're convinced, and the recent hearings show, that there are much bigger problems in Detroit. – Viveca Novak and Joe Miller Sources Sorkin, Andrew Ross. "A Bridge Loan? U.S. Should Guide G.M. in a Chapter 11." The New York Times, 18 Nov. 2008. Leonhardt, David. "$73 an Hour: Adding It Up." The New York Times, 9 Dec. 2008. Roberson, Jason. "UAW Losing Pay Edge." Detroit Free Press, 31 Jan. 2007. Sherk, James. "Auto Bailout Ignores Excessive Labor Costs." WebMemo #2135, 19 Nov. 2008. International Union, United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America. "Wages and Labor Costs." www.uaw.org, Web site accessed 11 Dec. 2008. "Stabilizing the Financial Condition of the American Automobile Industry." Hearing of the House Financial Services Committee, 19 Nov. 2008.

I have watched his show a few times, still trying to figure out why it was on. If your going to blow money putting on a fishing show put KVD on it! Marc Thorpe show?

The president of the UAW makes around 150K, not bad money certainly not much compared to the execs at the auto companies. Part of the auto companies problems are they didn`t properly fund their pensions a health care obligations to retirees. Much more important to have executives running around making millions and flying on corporate jets? Much more important to pay lobbyist to make millions of dollars in campaign contributions to have it their way? The cost for the domestic auto makers is higher, how many of the foreign mfgs has been employed long enough at them to get a pension? Or retire and get healthcare? Most of these plants haven`t been in operation for 30 years. LOL Litchfield Ohio, my home, me and the wife jokingly call it Litchtucky, a lot of southern folks here that came up to get jobs at the auto companies because there were no jobs at home. Wonder if they will reconsider the trips they make to Nashville, Dollywood, and places down south now? The home folks don`t seem to remember them much? Funny how some of the southern states don`t have a state income tax to create a rainy day fund for their own citizens. They sure do run to Washington when they need a bailout after a hurricane! And the UAW and it`s workers help them? LOL it`s still the war between the states and nothing Union sounds good down there. Just my opinion the economy is in shambles here, 4th consecutive month of a drop in retail sales, more jobs cuts and company bankruptcies announced today, a trend that needs to stop pretty quickly or this could be the new depression. With all these people out of work what chance will your kids have?

Dang! I knew about the drug and alcohol problems but he stole from the auto companies too?

The auto companies spent millions lobbying congress not to increase them since the 1980`s. The oil companies own scientists predicted back in the 50`s oil supply was in jeopardy. Yes congress is certainly partly to blame they could have started more regulation earlier. the auto companies were content to produce products with the biggest profit margins until the oil ran out or people couldn`t afford it. 35 years of oil supply problems and pricing and they didn`t learn? Maybe they couldn`t properly manage a McDonalds? They won`t have to though, a few years of paying yourself 12-15 million a year puts you on easy street? Rough to live on a 4.6 million a year pension? Auto companies weren`t behind the curve, they missed it completely. Their problems are more related to the housing crisis and job loss, if your not making your house payment or don`t have a job you don`t buy a car, even a foreign car. All auto sales are down. The people on Wall Street and Washington didn`t see that one coming either? The piles of lobbyist money were blocking the view?

Rob a couple other ideas on this site. http://www.lindyfishingtackle.com/tacklesh...ome.php?cat=707

http://www.westmarine.com/1/1/26066-bait-w...d-cummings.html I also use one of these in the livewell make them minnies easy to catch.