OhioFisherman

I have watched his show a few times, still trying to figure out why it was on. If your going to blow money putting on a fishing show put KVD on it! Marc Thorpe show?

The president of the UAW makes around 150K, not bad money certainly not much compared to the execs at the auto companies. Part of the auto companies problems are they didn`t properly fund their pensions a health care obligations to retirees. Much more important to have executives running around making millions and flying on corporate jets? Much more important to pay lobbyist to make millions of dollars in campaign contributions to have it their way? The cost for the domestic auto makers is higher, how many of the foreign mfgs has been employed long enough at them to get a pension? Or retire and get healthcare? Most of these plants haven`t been in operation for 30 years. LOL Litchfield Ohio, my home, me and the wife jokingly call it Litchtucky, a lot of southern folks here that came up to get jobs at the auto companies because there were no jobs at home. Wonder if they will reconsider the trips they make to Nashville, Dollywood, and places down south now? The home folks don`t seem to remember them much? Funny how some of the southern states don`t have a state income tax to create a rainy day fund for their own citizens. They sure do run to Washington when they need a bailout after a hurricane! And the UAW and it`s workers help them? LOL it`s still the war between the states and nothing Union sounds good down there. Just my opinion the economy is in shambles here, 4th consecutive month of a drop in retail sales, more jobs cuts and company bankruptcies announced today, a trend that needs to stop pretty quickly or this could be the new depression. With all these people out of work what chance will your kids have?

Dang! I knew about the drug and alcohol problems but he stole from the auto companies too?

The auto companies spent millions lobbying congress not to increase them since the 1980`s. The oil companies own scientists predicted back in the 50`s oil supply was in jeopardy. Yes congress is certainly partly to blame they could have started more regulation earlier. the auto companies were content to produce products with the biggest profit margins until the oil ran out or people couldn`t afford it. 35 years of oil supply problems and pricing and they didn`t learn? Maybe they couldn`t properly manage a McDonalds? They won`t have to though, a few years of paying yourself 12-15 million a year puts you on easy street? Rough to live on a 4.6 million a year pension? Auto companies weren`t behind the curve, they missed it completely. Their problems are more related to the housing crisis and job loss, if your not making your house payment or don`t have a job you don`t buy a car, even a foreign car. All auto sales are down. The people on Wall Street and Washington didn`t see that one coming either? The piles of lobbyist money were blocking the view?

Rob a couple other ideas on this site. http://www.lindyfishingtackle.com/tacklesh...ome.php?cat=707

http://www.westmarine.com/1/1/26066-bait-w...d-cummings.html I also use one of these in the livewell make them minnies easy to catch.

Kind of wondered myself douG, seems like the theory has been in the works for a few years at least. Scientists didn`t think a meteor wiped out the dinosaurs at first? Solve some problems if it did?

Just my opinion, you have to enjoy it, be willing to learn, develop the needed skills, and be aware, never pass up good luck. You can fish all day and get a couple hits or catch a limit in 5 minutes, got to land the ones you stick, in a tournament a dink keeper can move you to money. Fishing with people that know what they are doing is always a plus, not everyone approaches a situation the same way, the more ways you know can`t hurt.

Solo, just to add o to your comments, Emerald shiners seem to be the primary food source here for the steelies. In the fall of the year the emerald shiners stack up along the breakwalls and other structure at the river mouths and also in the rivers themselves. Mid to late October seems a key time, and if you see the shiners, the steelies are usually right near by, you can see them rolling or busting the shiners. They may? also herd them against the rocks and piers to trap them? Seems like every one I have caught and chosen to eat and clean was full of them, but also some other young of other species, shad, perch, mostly emeralds though. Just my opinion that everything here in the lake eats them because they are so common, some schools of them I have seen had to number in the millions.

Ever try to break a car window with a hammer? Although I have no clear recollection of the said incidents I believe so, again although my mother named my 3 brothers and I after Saints it was not our chosen profession. But never from the inside under water. Jack handles worked well for a lot of things, again never had the desire to use one under water.

I have always used my livewell, I just glue some screening over the overflow to keep the minnows from swimming out. Just found that the livewell with the timer was the easiest way. Screening I used was plastic and it`s been on the boat for twenty years or so with no problems.

Wouldn't be surprised if power windows are cheaper to manufacture than rollups nowadays LOL haven`t had one apart in a long time. mix in an electric motor, bigger alternator to power all the options, bigger battery, wiring, switches, connectors and 70 bucks or so an hour dealers labor charges once stuff starts breaking out of warranty? Like a drug, get people hooked and they "gotta have it " ? Then there is the tool to break the window in an emergency, 2 buck garage sale hammer is to complicated?

http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/30/blacklig...-this-for-real/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2005.../energy.science A new source of cheap clean electric power? A call out to resident rocket scientists? A piece on CNN this morning about this. Quantum physics? Same as Quantum reels? I am just into Quarks and Quasars.

We as a society, most have gone way beyond our reach? Brian I don`t disagree with that, but who set the example? Since 1980 most workers pay has been lucky to double? What could possibly make these CEO`s think their pay should go up by such a vast amount? It is the same for the Auto industry and most other businesses here. Connie I tend to disagree, better to hire the cops before the crime spree? Some one should have stepped in long before now, but political contributions can be blinding? I don`t have any answers, Washington seems to put out some lame ones. I don`t like the bailouts, the reasons given for them even less, and the concept of a CEO making more than the President of this country less than that. Never saw the need for a fancy car or boat, a roof over my families head that was paid for was Mission Accomplished! Only reason I won`t buy a stick shift now is cars don`t shift as well with out using the clutch as trucks, and my left leg has a mind of it`s own. Like anything different opinions, and I can`t and won`t say mine is right, just my view better more are living comfortably than the chosen few. I may have to much also? But it`s paid for and I never thought I was worth more than the guy working next to me, the cop or fireman, heck even the trash dude. Already told the wife when I croak no suit, burn my butt on some old pallets in the back field and have a pig roast and a couple kegs! I don`t need the beer either. At that point dry might be a good thing?

We bailed out Wall Street to save the economy, but if you look at the figures in the link was it wise? And we can deny the Auto companies? Just my take is the only suits some people should wear are striped ones? http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=2011 Key words In 1980, CEOs were paid 40 times the average worker. Today, they are paid 600 times more. No way to tell what is right or wrong for the common citizens? Our politicians went along for this ride and it seems to be a long one. Projection here is another 8 million home foreclosures here in the next 4 years, and 40% of the people getting modified home loans will again be foreclosed on? We need to keep people working.

How about having to show a legitimate need to buy a pickup truck or suv? Like towing a camper, boat, ect. Parking lot at work used to be full of them and the only thing most people hauled was their BFA! People bought them for safety? So they would survive a crash they might cause? eg 4500lbs of pickup or suv into a 2500lbs of car? If the thinking is they can make 6 to 9 thousand per copy does it make sense to build anything else if there is a demand? Got to remember these are good business men? They have to show the stock holders profits to get a raise? Keep their jobs? Or do they? Nationalize our health care, remove that burden of fully funded employer health care, establish a payroll tax of 2% of your hourly wage deducted from your pay and matched by the employer. Immediately deport any illegal alien that goes to the hospital with a non covered injury or illness instead of the taxpayers continuing to fund them. Lots of people here work under the table and have no insurance coverage, drives up the cost for everyone, including the companies that still provide full employer coverage. LOL I like Stren you like Trilene? Limited selection? People aren`t bright enough to realize it might be in their own best interests? I had a Chevy Astro van (wifes car) 10 mile drive to work, and a chevette (my ride) 28 mile drive to work but I am just cheap! Didn`t need to full size vehicles, didn`t need anything bigger to pull my boat or utility trailer. Need a fancy ride to park in the lot at work for 12 to 15 hours a day? All I need in a car is automatic transmission(now) power steering (now) power brakes and a AM/FM radio, instead they take a 10k car and put 8k worth of options on it, and call it a low end model? Non Union? I have trusted my employers to make good decisions about as much as I trust my politicians, any of them! The decisions may have been in their best interests but certainly not in mine. A lot more complicated, politics involved and things left to certain power bases with their own special interests. Hard to tell which is right, both sides may be to a certain extent but won`t be satisfied unless it is their way? Auto plants are a lot better than 30 years ago, but the Ford plant in Brookpark here used to have 12,000 employees and now less than 2,000, they got the hint? Over all the whole thing is smelly, from Wall Street to the Auto Companies, mostly driven by greed. LOL and the line for bail outs may get longer.

LOL easy on the Chevettes there, I bought a 3 year old one from a private owner for 1200 bucks and drove it for 8 years. Nothing done to it but regular oil changes and tires, and a timing belt.

Believe it or not all Auto sales are down and my understanding it`s world wide. I heard today auto sales in Spain are down 50%, even problems in China from an economic down turn. Imports stacking up in the ports in Long Beach California, foreign MFGS here extending the Christmas shutdown because of poor sales, one I believe to 7 weeks? Heck even Budweiser is laying off people, like 1200? People don`t have money for Beer? wings might be next? Dang! Idea is to stop this economic down turn from turning into a depression?

Ya that was funny also Brian, the news also was showing him kissing Barbara Streisend (SP) neither likes each other I think, some kind of awards ceremony.

LOL Brian, I can`t run to chase any one down or to get away so I try to laugh about everything. I have no idea what a bumble is, I may be a bumbler? Hmmm, take care of myself? That is getting tougher, LOL but I am trying!

LOL Brian, my wife doesn`t want to let me out of the house, she seems to think I have a death wish when I try to walk. I keep telling her I`m Paul I fall? Hard to learn to bounce if you don`t practice? Winter any way, I don`t let my boat out in the snow? You still interested? I thought you figured I was crazy? Topic was Provinces in Peril, waiting to see what they come up with for tonight, after the news today of the Governor of Illinois trying to sell (allegedly) a senate seat. LOL can`t fish so I have to laugh at the news.

Anyone catch it last night? After the IllNoise a couple states west of here we will not be out done!

Mike I have used a lot of different brands, no real favorite but theses are good ones, http://www.allterraintackle.com/products/grassjig.html Available through Stamina Tackle and I have purchased products from them directly. Justin Hoffman seems into this type of fishing a lot and probably is a better source for what is available up there if you chose to purchase locally. The BPS jigs are ok too. Trailers are mostly a matter of personal preference and confidence, I have used pork frogs, plastic frogs, pork grubs, plastic grubs, pork crawfish, plastic crawfish. The list could go on, get some you feel confident in and catch fish on. Colors? Hard to beat black and blue, basic black, brown and orange or brown and chartruse, watermelon, pumpkin. I have also used white, with a white trailer, baitfish scattering thru the weeds. Jigs catch fish, don`t leave home with out them! Caught bass in 6 inches of water on them and 20+ feet. Pointy nose better for weeds in my opinion, flatter for rocky bottoms, eg football style. You can swim them thru lighter cover also. Jigs tend to catch bigger fish.

Also thought the pictures were interesting. A reminder that there are places in most cities the visitor and convention bureaus would rather you didn`t see? Monuments to excess that went up faster than they will ever come down? The rise and fall of the Auto empire?

Also agree with the L/M, not with the Bluegill though, not a very good pic of it though. Sort of unusual most I have seen, even pike tried swallowing it tail first. Fins open and it gets stuck. Soft ray fish chubs shiners and such are better bait. Fish have adapted to them and know there are no issues eating them.