Fisherpete Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 I have just added a mooching reel to my salmon arsenal for this summer. The concept seems very cool, can't wait to try it out. I've seen them in use on many shows, usually in the west coast. Would love to hear some feedback and tips from those of you who use them. I was planning on just using it with one of my current downrigger rods, any drawbacks to this? If that's not the best way to go, does anyone have a suggestion for a mooching specific rod? Thanks Pete
esoxansteel Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Thats what i did Pete, it just replaces your level wind, and is much more fun IMO, of you are downrigging use your existing rigger rod.
BillM Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 That's all I use mine with, a simple fibreglass rigger rod (Old Fenwick from the 80s!!! love it!) Watch the knuckles
Bill Shearer Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 Lets face it; Catching salmon in the lake with levelwinds is really a simple task, so long as you have the drag set correctly, and an overactive thumb does not try and stop the fish on a run. Many years ago I used to charter for salmon on Lake O. When out with my friends we used the Shimano mooching reels, instead of the levelwinds. It was a lot more fun. Used them on the same Fenwick rigger rods, and had no issues with the rods. You should enjoy the catching a lot more with the mooching reels.
misfish Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) It,s no different then me using my pin up here for lakers. Your going to have a blast with it Pete. Like said,watch the knuckles. Atleast you have a drag system. LOL Edited February 25, 2015 by Brian B
bare foot wader Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 downrigger rod will work fine most mooching rods tend to be in the 10-11' range, a little extra length doesn't hurt but a rigger rod will work too for me the challenge wasn't avoiding knuckles, but reeling like crazy when they turn back at you, it is fun for sure
dave524 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Mine is on an old Fenwick Fenglas steelhead blank, a 1264 or 1262 , a 10 1/2 foot slow action blank, probably 12 or so inches of cork behind the reel seat and 8 inches in front of the seat, similar to a float rod. edit: it's a homebuilt Edited February 25, 2015 by dave524
Fisherpete Posted February 25, 2015 Author Report Posted February 25, 2015 Thanks for all the info guys. I added it simply for the fun aspect... cause it looks like a blast! I'll start out with it on one of my rigger rods and go from there. Bill - thanks for the warning... they are called 'knuckle busters' for a good reason I'm guessing LOL! Cheers Pete
dave524 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Posted February 26, 2015 Oh on the reels, I used a Mitchell 782 , it was a mooching reel in the 80's that had anti reversing handles. There was 2 different interrnal designs, one had a red band on the spool another had a gold band and honestly i forget which was better.
BillM Posted February 26, 2015 Report Posted February 26, 2015 I run those Mitchell 782s, red band model if that makes any difference. They are a riot.
dave524 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Posted February 26, 2015 I run those Mitchell 782s, red band model if that makes any difference. They are a riot. I read it after the fact on Lake Ontario United or Spoonpullers, there was a issue with the drag and one of them has an updated drag system. I never had an issue, actually kept it on the light side and palmed it like a float reel for additional drag. I see Rapala Canada has several 10 1/2 foot models that might fill the bill for a traditional mooching rod over the counter. http://www.rapala.ca/products/classic-trolling
BillM Posted February 26, 2015 Report Posted February 26, 2015 Yeah, we aren't cranking the drag down either, especially on those older fibreglass rigger rods. We've never had a problem with them.
AKRISONER Posted February 26, 2015 Report Posted February 26, 2015 As weve spoken about Pete, my uncle who fishes salmon out west outfit my dad and moochers are all we run. I did a salmon trip on lake O and after fighting salmon on their set ups i wondered why anyone would ever not use a moocher. There is nothing like the feeling of building tension and the reel spinning out drag at 100mph. Probably the most fun ive ever had fighting fish.
BillM Posted February 26, 2015 Report Posted February 26, 2015 Moochers are great, but you aren't running dipsys behind them Level winds are used for a reason.
KLINKER Posted February 26, 2015 Report Posted February 26, 2015 One problem with the 782 was, if filled with mono the line would expand in the sun and bend the spool enough to bind on the shaft. Some used a backing to give room for expansion, I wraped sticky back foam weatherstrip at the bottum of the spool. 782 on 12' noodle rod 1/2 mile 10lb ande line I picked up two 12' hooligan carp rods at a yard sale that I'm going to rig for salmon with moochers and maybe ad a few guides.
AKRISONER Posted February 26, 2015 Report Posted February 26, 2015 Moochers are great, but you aren't running dipsys behind them Level winds are used for a reason. forgive me im way too used to only running 1 line per angler! my understanding is that moochers originally were designed for jigging believe it or not.
Fisherpete Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Posted February 27, 2015 Anyone seen the Rapala 10'6" mooching rods for sale around here?
Fisherpete Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) This is the reel by the way... it's SWEEEEET!!! Amundson TMX4 Trend Mooching Specialist Edited February 27, 2015 by Fisherpete
grizzlybri Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Anyone seen the Rapala 10'6" mooching rods for sale around here? http://www.cabelas.ca/product/56557/rapala-north-coast-mooching-rod
NANUK Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Anyone seen the Rapala 10'6" mooching rods for sale around here? BPS has them for around $60 last I checked, That is what I am using with Daiwa M1 moocher
DRIFTER_016 Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) That's all I use mine with, a simple fibreglass rigger rod (Old Fenwick from the 80s!!! love it!) Watch the knuckles The old spiral wrapped Fenglas sticks? I have a stable of those rods. Edited February 27, 2015 by DRIFTER_016
dave524 Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 The old spiral wrapped Fenglas sticks? I have a stable of those rods. Built a lot of those too back in the day, spent a lot of time and money at Lorne Green's rodbuilding shop back between 1975 an 2000, what Fenwick built those 9 foot Riggersticks on were 9 foot 10 weight fly rods blanks according to Lorne. He marketed another heavier rod as a " Kingstalker " his name not Fenwick's , what that was was simply a 9 foot 12 wt. Fenglas flyrod blank. Back then most rods marketed as steelhead rods were West Coast design and far too heavy for Great Lakes streams, seems most of my early steelhead builds were on fly blanks too. I would think anyone looking to build a riggerstick would still do well to look at heavy wt. fly blanks for that slower action desireable in a rigger rod.
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