Steve Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 new lund seats are plastic and garbage - like much of the stuff on the new lunds. my original lund seats (1998) were far far far better than the ones I replaced them with in 2009.
Sinker Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 Check out the Starcraft tillers as well. They are sweeet!! S.
lew Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 Check out the Starcraft tillers as well. They are sweeet!! S. I've had a couple over the years Shane and your right , their excellent boats.
Bondar Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 The alumacraft is an awesome boat my Dad has it and it handles Big water no problem , it is heavy though and with a 90 tops out at like 35mph which is fine , but 45 would be better
fish_fishburn Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Posted February 10, 2013 Nice boat Wiser. Seems like all these tillers are under powered to me. 36 to 40 mph with a 90hp. Put a 150 on the back and now were talking. I like the gunnell with the built in rails on the new Alumacraft. and I would want vinyl instead of carpets for sure.
Bondar Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 yea the same boat in a console is rated for a 175 but the tiler only a 90 , I believe its because of the no Hydraulic steering on the tillers when they were rated would be an awesome boat with 150 on it
fish_fishburn Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Posted February 10, 2013 I think power steering can be arranged.
mike rousseau Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 yea the same boat in a console is rated for a 175 but the tiler only a 90 , I believe its because of the no Hydraulic steering on the tillers when they were rated would be an awesome boat with 150 on it My brothers 20 foot ranger tiller has a 115 (no hydraulic steering) and in rough water your fighting pretty hard with the tiller... Anyone getting a big tiller should strongly consider hydraulic steering like Titan....
fish_fishburn Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Posted February 10, 2013 I also like the Alumacraft because you can get any motor make you want for it. I'm really liking the Suzuki 90. A buddy had a 150 Suzzy on his bassboat yrs ago and it would run with 175's all day.
fish_fishburn Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Posted February 18, 2013 Well I sent out 4 emails to various boat dealers, Lund,Alumacraft and Kingfisher. Was just asking for the msrp of their boats I am interested in. Going on 10 days and no replies from any of them. Are these numbers top secret? Any idea how long a reply takes .
trapshooter Posted February 18, 2013 Report Posted February 18, 2013 I bet if you call a salesperson at each dealer you'll get your numbers pretty damn quick!
troutologist Posted February 20, 2013 Report Posted February 20, 2013 I ran the 1725 pro guide and loved it, I found the 1825 hull to be a little faster . Beat mine up for 3 years and nary an issue. Even with the 90hp I never found an issue with the tiller and no hydraulic steering.
cellwood Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Alumacraft for sure. Hands down best boat I have ever owned and the E-tec has been flawless. Go see Bay City Marine. Edited February 21, 2013 by silvervfr
fish_fishburn Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Posted April 20, 2013 Hi guys, just giving you an update on my experience with the dealers I have been in contact with through emails and phone calls. Its been two months since I contacted about seven dealers in total. Not one replied to the emails I sent out so I called them all by phone. four dealers had no answer so I left a message which none of then returned. The others said they didnt have pricing yet or something to that effect, but they would get back to me as soon as they got them. Told them I was three to four hrs away by car and if I liked what I heard I would make the drive to come and see them. As of today none have replied to my calls. Am I expecting to much from these dealers? I even sent my info to each manufacturer to send me their 2013 catalogues as required on their web sites and still havent received anything from any of them. Been two months now. One salesman I talked to asked me what I did for a living and I told him I was in sales. He said what do you sell and I told him what does it matter. Anyhow not having a very good experience buying a new boat so far.Think I will scratch these dealers off my list since they cant take a minute to try and sell me a boat, can only imagine what their service is like when trying to get something repaired. I ran my own retail business for twenty years and would always treat a cold call as a possible sale. I guess things have changed, seems these sales people dont care unless you walk in with a hand full of cash and say I'll take that one.
fish_fishburn Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Posted April 20, 2013 Anyone else having this type of experience?
Dan668 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Posted April 20, 2013 Maybe because of my age most dealers didn't pay attention to me. But when i came in with cash on hand, different story.
Moosebunk Posted April 20, 2013 Report Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) I find this odd FishB as just this past couple weeks I contacted by email a Temagami and Calabogie Naden dealer, Carleton Place Marine for Lund and Rideau Ferry Marine for Alumacraft. All returned emails that day or overnight. All gave quotes by email except Calabogie, and upon having a look at the Alumacraft and Lund, both dealerships there had staff at my side willing to answer any questions. I also have a tiller. 16.5 Rebel XL with a 60HP. It has spent time on St.Clair, Quinte, Nipigon and other big waters too... sometimes a week at a time. It's also lighter and trailers well, and launches into ditches if need be. Not sure why some others have issues with Lund, I have had no issues with mine and although it's on the road 2-4 times a week and has been trailered several times across the province, you treat it like an investment and give it regular check-ups it'll be fine. If thinking CPMarine & Lund... I could try Shawn on your behalf. We went to school together. Or, if you didn't know this, Rideau Ferry deals Alumacraft and I was there last week eyeballin' boats too. They are the closest to you with this brand and the fella who met me at the door seemed a nice young lad. Edited April 20, 2013 by Moosebunk
irishfield Posted April 20, 2013 Report Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Anyone else having this type of experience? Yep... Fall 2006.. DT Sports, Gordon Bay Marine and Bay Marine in Hamilton. All couldn't be bothered to respond to emails asking for a quote on a 2150 Baron or 1950 Tyee..... that they wouldn't even have to put in their "floor plan" and see every day in their showroom. Temagami Marine was certainly happy to get their 15 to 20% profit, for a 70k+ boat, that didn't have to be 3rd party financed and sitting in their inventory! Edited April 20, 2013 by irishfield
Radnine Posted April 20, 2013 Report Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) If you want to see how a dealer should show boats and treat customers go to Proctor Marine in Simcoe Ontario (electronically of course). Click on "Showroom" and see a profile of every boat that they have, including the price. And I guarantee that Doug will return your email with any question. Now, I know that this does not help a guy in Ottawa (what does? ) but if your dealership doesn't act like this dealership, look for one that does. Jim Edited April 20, 2013 by Radnine
fish_fishburn Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Posted April 20, 2013 I went to a local Princecraft dealer 2 weeks ago to check out their boats and prices. The staff was nice and knowledgable. I gave him a list on what I wanted on my boat and am still waiting for a price. Think Ill pass on Princecraft because I wasnt impressed with the layout of their boats and they seemed not very interested in selling me what I wanted. Tried talking me into buying a console model. They had free stuff that came with the console model but no freebies on the same model with a tiller.
fish_fishburn Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Posted April 20, 2013 Thanks Jim. What do they sell?
Luke V. Posted April 20, 2013 Report Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Proctor Marine gets my vote as well Talk to Doug great salesman willing to help at all costs Kept my boat for a week to make it get on plane better He even took it out on the lake twice to ensure it was just right. (No cost to me) They are carrying crestliner boats. Which are awesome Back when we bought our boat he was selling starcrafts I would definitely be calling him! Edited April 20, 2013 by Luke V.
lookinforwalleye Posted April 20, 2013 Report Posted April 20, 2013 Being in sales for 35 years I understand a thing or two about customer service and I find it appalling that the dealers/salespeople treated a potential client with such disregard, in a competative business it's your customer service that sets you apart. When I was looking I found the sales service okay the real disappointment was the amount of inventory they keep, always little or no inventory and 3 month leadtime. It was the complete opposite when I bought my trailer great service and lots of inventory to touch and feel. The boat guys could learn a thing or two from the RV guys!!!
kickingfrog Posted April 20, 2013 Report Posted April 20, 2013 I hear ya about the inventory on hand. I understand, floor space, overhead etc but if an rv dealer can do it, as you point out, why not a boat dealer? The boat shows/ fishing shows are great places to compare and contrast different brands.
Radnine Posted April 20, 2013 Report Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Thanks Jim. What do they sell? They sell the greatest boats ever made....Crestliner! You would be looking for the 1850 Pro Tiller (unless you come to your senses and buy a side console). Good luck! Jim Edited April 20, 2013 by Radnine
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